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From: Francisco J Ballesteros <nemo@lsub.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] zero copy & 9p (was Re: PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 09:38:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FA46EAF2-2344-4DA0-8A56-7B85CD4C4826@lsub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFSF3XMgB=QLrtqKpxq7MBVAm2ZOKTK7JxrMWWk24HcYZKmeXg@mail.gmail.com>

Pure "producer/cosumer" stuff, like sending things through a pipe as long as the source didn't need to touch the data ever more.
Regarding bugs, I meant "producing bugs" not "fixing bugs", btw.

> On 14 Oct 2018, at 09:34, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> well, finding bugs is always good :)
> but since i got curious could you also tell which things exactly got
> much faster, so that we know what might be possible?
> 
> On 10/14/18, FJ Ballesteros <nemo@lsub.org> wrote:
>> yes. bugs, on my side at least.
>> The copy isolates from others.
>> But some experiments in nix and in a thing I wrote for leanxcale show that
>> some things can be much faster.
>> It’s fun either way.
>> 
>>> El 13 oct 2018, a las 23:11, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> escribió:
>>> 
>>> and, did it improve anything noticeably?
>>> 
>>>> On 10/13/18, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I did several versions of one part of zero copy, inspired by several
>>>> things
>>>> in x-kernel, replacing Blocks by another structure throughout the
>>>> network
>>>> stacks and kernel, then made messages visible to user level. Nemo did
>>>> another part, on his way to Clive
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018, 07:05 Ori Bernstein, <ori@eigenstate.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:43:00 -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg
>>>>> <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another case to ponder ...   We're handling the incoming I/Q data
>>>>>> stream, but need to fan that out to many downstream consumers.  If
>>>>>> we already read the data into a page, then flip it to the first
>>>>>> consumer, is there a benefit to adding a reference counter to that
>>>>>> read-only page and leaving the page live until the counter expires?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hiro clamours for benchmarks.  I agree.  Some basic searches I've
>>>>>> done don't show anyone trying this out with P9 (and publishing
>>>>>> their results).  Anybody have hints/references to prior work?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --lyndon
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't believe anyone has done the work yet. I'd be interested
>>>>> to see what you come up with.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>>   Ori Bernstein
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 




  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-14  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-10 17:34 [9fans] " cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10 21:54 ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-10 22:26   ` [9fans] zero copy & 9p (was " Bakul Shah
2018-10-10 22:52     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-11 20:43     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 22:28       ` hiro
2018-10-12  6:04       ` Ori Bernstein
2018-10-13 18:01         ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-13 21:11           ` hiro
2018-10-14  5:25             ` FJ Ballesteros
2018-10-14  7:34               ` hiro
2018-10-14  7:38                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros [this message]
2018-10-14  8:00                   ` hiro
2018-10-15 16:48                     ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-15 17:01                       ` hiro
2018-10-15 17:29                       ` hiro
2018-10-15 23:06                         ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-16  0:09                       ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-17 18:14                       ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-10 22:29   ` [9fans] " Kurt H Maier
2018-10-10 22:55     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-11 11:19       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2018-10-11  0:26   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11  1:03     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-14  9:46   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-10-14 10:37     ` hiro
2018-10-14 17:34       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-10-14 19:17         ` hiro
2018-10-15  9:29         ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-10-10 23:58 [9fans] zero copy & 9p (was " cinap_lenrek
2018-10-11  0:56 ` Dan Cross
2018-10-11  2:26   ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-11  2:30   ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-11  3:20     ` Steven Stallion

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