On May 9, 2015, at 7:43 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > easy enough until one encounters devices that don't send icmp > responses because it's not implemented, or somehow considered > "secure" that way. Oddly enough, I don't see this 'problem' in the real world. And FreeBSD is far from being alone in the always-set-DF bit. The only place this bites is when you run into tiny shops with homegrown firewalls configured by people who don't understand networking or security. Me, I consider it a feature that these sites self-select themselves off the network. I'm certainly no worse off for not being able to talk to them.