From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:37:51 -0700 From: Geoffrey Avila To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] 2 things In-Reply-To: <13426df10710051356g48579e18n81a4e4a4eb0452ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Topicbox-Message-UUID: cb1d72a6-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > > > > Isn't that a very explicitly un-plan9-like thing to want? > > that's not un-plan9-like at all. Ok, I guess I just can't see it; While it may be possible (and good!) to let your plan 9 fileserver be a data repository, I'd think that good middleware needs to be OS-agnostic, so as to be isolated from the details of things like filesystem implementation. > > > People are used to a big heavy > > library/class thing to call on to do something. > > > is this a good thing or just something we live with? > > ron > I'm not sure if it's good or bad. It seems to be the way modern environments expect you to write programs that talk to each other. I'll plead the fifth. My lack of a CS degree absolves me from having an official opinion!:) Why coulden't the sort of Grid Middleware (acck! thppt! sorry...) facility that the irods people want to make be an integral part of the OS; something that could be manipulated via mount & cat & echo &c.? My guess is that it is asking a lot of Unix to try and make it work that way, in a manner that is reliable and dependable and cross-platform enough to be useful. What the hell else do we use? Windows? It has the virtue at least, of ubiquity...