[9fans] Inferno magazine ad

[9fans] Inferno magazine ad

[andrey mirtchovski]

I received yesterday (by mistake?) issue #1 of "Embedded Linux Journal"
(which is published by the same people who publish LJ)...

Anyway, as much as I think noone on this list will be interested in the
journal itself, I do think some of you will like the Inferno ad I saw in
it.. It is a full page ad somewhere in the middle of the magazine and I
am absolutely sure it will please Boyd :-)

I'm sending a link to a scanned picture because I'm not sure how the
list will react if spammed with an image of this size...

If anyone wants a better quality scan I can provide without
hesitation...

here it is:

http://homepage.usask.ca/~aam396/Inferno.jpg

andrey

ps: I don't follow the inferno newsgroup, but positively someone will
inform them about the ad, right?

Re: [9fans] Inferno magazine ad

[Boyd Roberts]

From: andrey mirtchovski <aam396@mail.usask.ca>
> It is a full page ad somewhere in the middle of the magazine and I
> am absolutely sure it will please Boyd :-)

kick ass!  cool!

thanks for the scan's url, avoiding jpeg's flying around the list.

vita could have added an extra line :-)

    Does It Suck                  No     Yes

or even worse:

    Has Boyd Contributed To It    Yes    No

'embedded linux'?  i could think of the odd thing to embed it in :-)

Re: [9fans] Inferno magazine ad

[Christian Smith]

Not been on this list long, but I guess you are to Linux what Linux users
are to Windows?

;)

Christian

BTW, is it just Linux you spit venom at, or all other OSes?

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Boyd Roberts wrote:

>From: andrey mirtchovski <aam396@mail.usask.ca>
>> It is a full page ad somewhere in the middle of the magazine and I
>> am absolutely sure it will please Boyd :-)
>
>kick ass!  cool!
>
>thanks for the scan's url, avoiding jpeg's flying around the list.
>
>vita could have added an extra line :-)
>
>    Does It Suck                  No     Yes
>
>or even worse:
>
>    Has Boyd Contributed To It    Yes    No
>
>'embedded linux'?  i could think of the odd thing to embed it in :-)
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Inferno magazine ad

[Boyd Roberts]

From: Christian Smith <csmith@micromuse.com>


> BTW, is it just Linux you spit venom at, or all other OSes?

you think that's 'venom'?

i take dennis ritchie's position:

    unix has retarded o/s research by 10 years and linux has
    retarded it by 20.

i also found today this great reference to dante's inferno:

    ... there is a special place of torment reserved for
    those have been neutral in life.  Their sin is regarded
    so grave that they are not even allowed into hell, only
    its vestibule, separated from hell by the river Archeron.
    For their sin of indecision and vacillation, Dante devised
    an appropriate and awful torment: they were condemned
    to rush for ever behind a banner "which whirls with aimless
    speed as though it would never take a stand, while also
    being stung by swarms of persuing hornets".

        -- Deliver Us From Evil, William Shawcross, pp. 32-33.
           ISBN 0-7475-4844-7

what is the point of yet another bloated unix?  the time to
wipe the slate clean was 10 years ago, but the 2nd ed price
may have scared off some people as well as the fact that
'plan 9 is not unix'.  a blinkered unix/linux hack will
stick with that 20+ year old techology.

[9fans] Re: Inferno magazine ad

[Jim Choate]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Boyd Roberts wrote:

> what is the point of yet another bloated unix?  the time to
> wipe the slate clean was 10 years ago, but the 2nd ed price
> may have scared off some people as well as the fact that
> 'plan 9 is not unix'.  a blinkered unix/linux hack will
> stick with that 20+ year old techology.

No, Commodore never could hire a decent marketing team for the Amiga is
what happened.

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Re: [9fans] Inferno magazine ad {OT}

[Eric Dorman]

Boyd Roberts wrote:
> From: Christian Smith <csmith@micromuse.com>
> > BTW, is it just Linux you spit venom at, or all other OSes?
>
> you think that's 'venom'?
> 
> i take dennis ritchie's position:
> 
>     unix has retarded o/s research by 10 years and linux has
>     retarded it by 20.

One could also say the same thing about Windoze, given its
popularization amongs .EDU CS departments in a (IMHO) mistaken
attempt to reduce cost per seat or something.  Perhaps these
CS departments are dominated by Corporate IT types who liken
churning out cookie-cutter students to churning out cookie-cutter
widgets.  There are a few bright stars out there but generally
the situation is grim.

Sigh.

--eric

Re: [9fans] Inferno magazine ad

[Jim Bennett]

Christian Smith wrote:

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As a "lurker" on this list, I see and learn quite a bit.

I have to admit, though, that your "sig" caught my attention.

Instead of a blatant rip-off, I figured I'll ask:

Would it be OK with you if I use it ?

JB
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Re: [9fans] Inferno magazine ad

[Christian Smith]

Sure, I ripped it off from a colleague anyway:)

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Jim Bennett wrote:

>
>Christian Smith wrote:
>
><snip>
>
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>
>
>As a "lurker" on this list, I see and learn quite a bit.
>
>I have to admit, though, that your "sig" caught my attention.
>
>Instead of a blatant rip-off, I figured I'll ask:
>
>Would it be OK with you if I use it ?
>
>JB
>

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Re: [9fans] Re: Inferno magazine ad

[kim kubik]

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: [9fans] Re: Inferno magazine ad
-----Unoriginal Reply------

>On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Boyd Roberts wrote:

>> what is the point of yet another bloated unix?  the time to
>> wipe the slate clean was 10 years ago,

>
>No, Commodore never could hire a decent marketing team for the Amiga is
>what happened.
>
>       The Armadillo Group       ,::////;::-.          James Choate
>       Austin, Tx               /:'///// ``::>/|/      ravage@ssz.com


Jeeze, I didn't know anyone besides Bill Hawes, the group
at SLAC, and a few other Stanford people (Tom Rokicki especially)
ever caught on to what the AmigaOS was about. The ARexx Message
Ports for IPC seems like what 'plumber' is going to be when
it grows up . . . I haven't seen anything come close yet.

FWIW, Art Walker's gamma ray telescope (the EGRET) that he did for
his PhD project actually got up there, maybe a decade ago. I guess
it's still circling.

 - kim