From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Choate To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: hangar18@einstein.ssz.com Subject: Re: [9fans] micro vs monolithic kernels In-Reply-To: <20010409214335.DA03319A6F@mail.cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:16:20 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7c50f066-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 I have to disagree here as well. You wouldn't if you were out there all along with your willies swinging in the wind. I don't and wouldn't do that to my people. I can take a newbie and have them walk through my teams script (it's mostly automated) and they can do it almost as fast. It takes us about 2 weeks to get somebody up to speed and regularly, reliably hitting our standard performance markers. Plan 9 has a ways to go, that is without a doubt...;) On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Russ Cox wrote: > sorry, i didn't qualify that properly. > you wouldn't expect, having just been exposed to > windows for the first time, to set up an nt file > server properly in a few hours. ditto for linux. > > once you've done it a few times, and once you know > your way around the system, sure, all of them become > much quicker to install. for the last six years, i've > run a linux internet gateway at my old high school. > the first time i set it up it took me hundreds (!) of > hours, despite familiarity with linux. (the computing > environment there was quite peculiar and inserting linux > required much tailoring.) the last time i set it up > it took three hours. > > i agree that it'd be great to have the plan 9 cpu and > file servers be easier to install. doing a cpu > install program wouldn't be too hard. doing a file > server install program will require waiting for the > new file server, since the current one doesn't allow > arbitrary processes to run on it: what you see is > all you get. ____________________________________________________________________ To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------