Re: [9fans] Re: secret stuff

[Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Dan Cross wrote:

> > Nobody designed the system to be crackable, but we have a 2nd Law of
> > Thermodynamics to contend with. There is no such thing as a uncrackable
> > system.
>
> One-time pads

If you have a secure channel to pass OTP's then you don't strictly need
the smart card. The channel that the OTP is transfered to is the primary
hole in OTP security, it's also why they are so seldom used in practice.
OTP's are uncrackable ONLY to a naive MITM who has limited access to the
channels of communications.

So, no OTP's are not uncrackable.

> and hyper-encryption under the bounded storage model are
> both `uncrackable.'

I'll leave this one as a exercise for the student as to why it isn't
uncrackable.

>  Even under computational models beyond that of
> Church et al, and with against adversaries with infinite resources.

Uh huh...


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