From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Choate To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: , Subject: Re: [9fans] Russian keyboard In-Reply-To: <20020926155554.N46323-100000@fbsd.acl.lanl.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:20:26 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: f693bbd2-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Zao, Ni hao ma? Wo hen hao. On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Jack Johnson wrote: > > > Would it be ugly-but-adequate to just have two, a default and an (easily > > alterable) alternate? > > > > > there are people who routinely use more than two languages in their > day-to-day operations. Wo yong qi ge yuyan. Da svidanya, mi amigo. ps Just in case anyone is interested...[note the one edit from the earlier version I sent out, I'll update that version soonest.] Hangar 18 - Goodwill Linux Group Cluster Project #1 Sept. 29, 2002 Author: Hangar 18 James F. Choate Jr. jchoate@open-forge.org ravage@ssz.com 512-451-7087 Precis: The purpose of this document is to describe the current state of discussion between Hangar 18 and the Goodwill Linux Group. It's purpose is to bring together the various parties involved around a commen set of goals and process. The hope is that we can take the current known resources and have a working facility by the end of 2002. This is a document 'in process'. It is revised and distributed by the senior membership of Hangar 18 at this time. We are actively looking for others to participate and flesh out this skeleton of a proposal. All active contributors can expect to be included in the 'Author' section. Purpose: To build a public access tit-for-tat cluster facility. The facility would consist of multiple machines which ran Plan 9, Inferno, Linux, etc. in a heterogeneous clustering environment. Commercial use of this facility is not covered in this document, but it is not in principle excluded. Once this facility was up and operating it would act as a central contact point to bring other participants and their resources into play to expand the abilities of the facility. Ideally this means that we would have clusters connecting globally through the use of both clear text and cryptographically secure virtual private networks. In addition to clustering it would be involved in the expansion of wireless network technology. In general this would be guerrilla or neighborhood access points. Location: The location would need to be able to support approximately 20 machines. At 110VAC @ 5A this implies a total load of 1kW [Oops, make that about 10kW]. The location would also need to be able to seat at least 10 people in addition to the space taken by the cluster machines and management workstations. The implication is that the space required would be approx. equivalent to 20ft. by 20ft. Access would need to be controlled 24/365. It would also need to have a small space setup for construction and repair of the machines. Exact layout and source for these resources is not covered here. It is assumed that the majority of the material and effort would be donated gratis from the community. Infrastructure: A reasonable infrastructure would imply a Internet connection of at least 256kb/s up to T1 speeds or greater. The higher the better since at least one proposed application is parallel rendering. The current proposed split of machines is: 4ea Plan 9 process servers 1ea Plan 9 file system server 4ea Linux machines (exact cluster architecture not defined) 2ea Management workstation 4ea General workstations for training purposes 5ea Undefined usage per the location requirement above The exact configuration and product load of these machines is not specified in this document. Support: The majority of the support and maintenance would be provided by the Hangar 18 and Goodwill Linux group members. Non-member participant would be acceptable. For this to be a workable facility responce would need to be -near- commercial levels. This means at least 24hr (ie next day) responce on issues and problems. It is proposed that this aspect be taken care of by the facility provider and senior Hangar 18 members. Others are welcome to volunteer on a skills and need basis. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We don't see things as they are, ravage@ssz.com we see them as we are. www.ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org Anais Nin www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------