From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Choate To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: , Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: The new ridiculous license In-Reply-To: <20030620190617.B2250@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:54:10 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: d3f6e5a8-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Lucio De Re wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 11:44:09AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > > > > Why is Lucent an easy target if their license is strong in the warranty > > and expectations department backed up by law? > > > Because litigation does not have to have its foundations in "right". ??? It's basic contract law, and any contract grants the participants rights as well as obligations. > You forget that Lucent don't have to give anything away. I -never- forget that. > It is left to the Plan 9 community (in a large sense) to justify a trust > that has, as you point out, never been tested. ??? I have -no- responsibility to justify anything, especially any sort of 'trust'. I have a contract with Lucent that is instantiated through the license. Nothing more, nothing less. If Lucent wants something from me outside of the license, they should have put it in the license. The question from Lucent, any business, is 'what's in it for me?'. Ask yourself this (I don't care to hear your answers thank you very much); If Lucent had kept Plan 9 closed source how would it have (probably/likely) grown? What we see from Lucent is typical corporate psychology. They're afraid to let one iota more go than necessary to make a profit. It's hard to take any argument or claim based on 'justify a trust' when the only issue at hand is profit. Get real. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------