From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Choate To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: Subject: Re: [9fans] NAT'ing a drawterm connection In-Reply-To: <011101c36b74$70d08d00$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:25:53 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 222d9a5a-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > > I see your point, but, customers of a service wouldn't be sympathetic > > to that answer. > > oh i agree, but, for the moment, i have nothing much to protect. > Then you miss the point of full-time encryption. This forces mallet to decrypt all data. If you only use encryption to protest 'important' stuff then you shouldn't bother encrypting it. People should be using encryption as a matter of course. One of the primary goals of H18 is to build in encryption to all levels of P9. One of the first things I'd like is to see DES replaced as the default protocol. Dedicated FPGA cracker is <$50k US. The more fundamental problem is that it's the same sort of misunderstanding it entails regarding inter-personal relations. It's the same as saying "Unless you have something to hide you shouldn't mind a search". Individuals aren't property (at least not in American democracy). This sort of view is more fascist (in the sense of private property and public management). As O.H. Wilson (I think he's the right bioligist) who was asked his opinion of socialism. He said something akin to "Nice theory, wrong species." -- -- ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.com www.ssz.com www.open-forge.com