From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Ronald G. Minnich" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Some Plan9 questions In-Reply-To: <20030211223619.29018.qmail@scsi1.moonshynecomm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:55:26 -0700 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 57c62372-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Matt Keeler wrote: > 3) How hard is it for someone who is coming from a more common UNIX OS to > get used to Plan9? Speaking for me, there are at least 3 learning curves. Initially it's not too bad (8c for cc, etc). Then you start trying to learn how to really use the system, and learn how to use Acme etc., and unlearning all the dumb things you learned to get used to Unix; e.g. getting used to using bind to make it easy to build kernels without modifying the base kernel tree (truthfully, how many of you out there started out using disk/kfscmd allow when you wanted to modify the kernel source? I happen to know one such person who is now a prolific Plan 9 contributor ...) The 3rd learning curve for me has been the steepest, trying to wrap my brain around everything. Watching all the clever things people do. Trying to set up a cpu cluster ... Once you see all this stuff and go back to Unix, you keep saying "damn! this is stupid! I wouldn't have this problem on Plan 9!". It's depressing at times. Oh yeah, program the graphics. You'll never want to touch X11 again. Learn it well, it's worth it. The OS world by and large is not that interesting right now, save for things like Plan 9. ron