From: "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] fs administration: how do people update multi-user fs?
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:20:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302140818210.1630-100000@carotid.ccs.lanl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba175919a86ab118a27a35fd3ad01474@plan9.bell-labs.com>
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Russ Cox wrote:
> (Doing the software packaging I became painfully aware
> of how bad Unix is in this regard. It was impossible to
> test my installations without su'ing to root. You'd think
> that some Unix would take the hint and use group permissions
> so that you didn't have to be root to install potentially
> untrusted pieces of software that come with custom build
> scripts.)
A few things I've noticed in recent years, esp. on Linux
- you need to be root more than you used to
- more priveleged ports, not less
- more setuid-root stuff, not less
- code that used to be portable to many systems now has trouble
compiling on non-Linux systems
Things are going downhill in the OS monoculture.
ron
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-14 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-14 15:02 Axel Belinfante
2003-02-14 15:16 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-14 15:20 ` Ronald G. Minnich [this message]
2003-02-14 17:16 ` Jack Johnson
2003-02-14 17:28 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-02-14 17:42 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-14 18:04 ` northern snowfall
2003-02-16 22:28 ` Roman V. Shaposhnick
2003-02-14 17:47 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-14 15:33 ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-14 15:37 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-14 16:08 ` [9fans] chown in fossil Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-02-14 16:17 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-14 16:20 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-02-14 16:23 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-14 16:27 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-02-15 2:56 ` [9fans] fs administration: how do people update multi-user fs? Christopher Nielsen
2003-02-15 3:03 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-02-15 4:38 ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-02-15 3:13 ` Scott Schwartz
2003-02-15 4:39 ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-02-15 4:48 ` Andrew
2003-02-15 16:20 ` Dan Cross
2003-02-15 9:49 ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-15 14:18 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-15 15:29 ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-16 14:20 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-16 14:30 ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-16 14:36 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-15 15:53 ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-02-15 16:00 ` Lucio De Re
2003-02-15 16:22 ` Dan Cross
2003-02-15 17:58 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-14 16:16 ` Dan Cross
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