From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: andrey mirtchovski <mirtchov@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: OT lunix rants (Was: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful?)
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Date: Wed,  9 Jul 2003 16:54:50 -0600
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, boyd, rounin wrote:

> i quick test for an idiot european is:
>
>     env | egrep 'LANG|LC_'
>

since we're ranting, anyways:

to read utf-8 in lunix I need to set:

	LANG=en_US.UTF-8 (no, not bg_BG.UTF-8, because then lpr decides to print
	in A4 only, and there's no printer here that'd do it, unless I have a
	dead chicken to wave at it. we have mad cow in calgary, not dead
	chickens)

	-u8 to xterm (no chance of using other terminals -- 9term works with utf,
	but linux doesn't work with 9term)

	-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1  - my
	personal favourite. sometimes I need to switch fonts because this one
	doesn't have a full set of glyphs..

	-iconv handy -- for all the stupid bulgarians that still use KOI8-r,
	Windows-cp1251, KOI8-u, Codepage-866, ISO-8859-5 and god knows what
	else


to write utf-8 in lunix I need to set (in X11):

    -Option      "XkbLayout" "bg"    #Option "XkbVariant"    "" -- to
	tell it that it's a bulgarian sitting behind the keyboard (to scare
	it perhaps and force X into submission?)

    -Option      "XkbVariant" "phonetic_enhanced" -- 'phonetic_bds' is a
	local to eastern european countries layout for typewriters, where all the
	vowels are on one side of the keyboard, it's there in case we ought to
	torture somebody and are out of other options

    -Option      "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" -- try
	to decipher that on your own.

There is no conceivable set of documentation that explains how to do it in
one go -- one has to be 'enlightened' by somebody who already knows this
stuff.