From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] spam rejection after reception does have limits Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:46:50 -0600 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 51c5cb0c-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 I just got this linuxbios list message rejected from some random host somewhere due to the racy, dirty subject line: Subject: New config tool The naughty word, according the the system that rejected it, was 'tool'. This situation is impossible. I'm getting truckloads of bounced mail for no real reason. I think mail as we have known it for a quarter century is going down, one way or another. (I'm remembering it was just 25 years ago that Dave Crocker was down the hall from me at Udel working on RFC 822 and the MMDF stuff -- seems like -- well, 25 years ago -- creak, creak). The early ARPANET mail work was predicated on the fact the great unwashed weren't allowed on the ARPANET unless you were vetted, or unless your buddy gave you the TIP dial-in 800 #. We have a half-working solution now on 9grid. I agree with everything everyone has said about the limitations of import /mail/box but I don't see the current SMTP-based systems lasting a whole lot longer if you can't even say Subject: Thank you in a mail message. ron