From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] spam rejection after reception does have limits In-Reply-To: <001601c385d6$bff7f5e0$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:12:09 -0600 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 53244082-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > Ron sez: > > I wouldn't go that far. In the good 'ole days, DARPANET was an elitist > > institution: nobody got in unless DARPA said ok. > body sez: > it was designed to be a closed, fault tolerant, net for the military. > > run by bob ? yeah. I saw Dave Crocker at SGI about ten years ago and we were talking about the inappropriate uses that "the great unwashed" were putting the internet to -- uses never envisioned when it was "elite net" and only certain folks got to use email, much less hook up to it. He had seen cases of people sending billing and payment notices for their business, in the clear, over email, with sensitive bits in them. We were both kind of amazed (appalled) at how things had worked out. But why not? The protocols were all designed with one assumption: if you were on the net at all, you had passed some sort of barriers already. Now, of course, it is tending to collapse so this may be less of a problem in a short while. "Your message was rejected as Spam. The subject was: Your new tool has arrived. The word which caused the rejection was: tool" Second try: Subject: That you-know-what is here at the you-know-what "Your message was rejected as ..." Third try: Subject: U got thing here now cum get it "You message ..." [[ recipient of email goes out of business waiting for email about their new tool ]] ron