From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] nice hardware for a cpu server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:16:13 -0700 Topicbox-Message-UUID: cbac1412-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, YAMANASHI Takeshi wrote: > Adding to that, in grid people, `share' means ``aren't there > any idle oxen down on which I can get laid my burden? My > oxen are full already.'' The first problem is, that going back to the 70s, grids have never worked. Check out rsexec from early 70s and tell me how Globus is any better. For the decades of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and now, you can find some term that corresponds to the term 'grid'. And you'll find that people had great dreams and they all went down in flames, and the terms ended up getting used by marketing to mean something other than they were supposed to. This is happening now with grids -- Oracle in its new ads is calling clusters grids! The one ray of light in this mess is Plan 9. I'm convinced (probably wrongly, as usual, but ...) that Plan 9 has really got what it takes to really make grids a reality. ron