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From: ron minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] nice hardware for a cpu server
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Date: Fri,  6 Feb 2004 13:42:22 -0700
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Tristan Seligmann wrote:

> ah, come on, it's not that hard to use xnest.

yes, but that is the whole point. To do this in X, you need xnest. to do
this in rio, you need ... well, rio.

This is the same kind of argument we used to have as Unix people with
non-Unix people. The VMS and VM and MPE and RSX and MCP guys could always
argue, shown something in Unix, that they could do the same thing in their
OS given time and effort. They never quite got that the whole point was
that you didn't need to do anything extra at all in Unix; it was the
system as a whole that mattered, not this or that feature. They focused on
the branches and missed the forest.

So now we see this or that handy thing in Plan 9 that you can, with
sufficient effort, replicate in a less convenient (certainly less elegant)
way in non-Plan 9 environments; that is not the point.

What goes around, goes around.

ron