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Stuart" To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Fun with sshsession Message-ID: References: <65783ea3fbfc44547885aa314e993718@gunge.quuxotic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <65783ea3fbfc44547885aa314e993718@gunge.quuxotic.net> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20982 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 35a34bc6-7fec-11ed-a197-a110a0f63ef3 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UYTM0MzEwMGYxNjU0NjMxZS1NZDUzYmFmOTgyZWNiMWQ5MjU1ZDYx?= =?UTF-8?B?ZWUxPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Md53baf982ecb1d9255d61ee1:1:LnMvDCBPinFTBVaOIHSPw4229tgt2B40F3LwG_xDp_0 On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 06:06:21PM -0600, Steven Stallion wrote: > > I found another interesting wrinkle. It appears this issue seems to > > only affect diskless CPU servers. I'm able to SSH successfully to my > > auth and file servers. >=20 > Mystery solved! It turns out this was the same issue Cinap fixed in > auth/as last year. sshsession was inheriting the host owner factotum > after capuse, which was leading to breakage on hosts other than the > file server. Steve, I'm glad to hear you got it sorted out. Now that our fall term is over, I can come up for air. But I didn't have much to add to your search anyway. About the only thing I've done with it since Geoff's clean-up was recently adding some new key exchange algorithms since OpenSSH no longer supports the original required KEX algorithms out of the box. The server side of things was always a little goofy. It does carry the fingerprints of being developed to allow customers to ssh into appliances that didn't share an auth server. I never got around to doing much aimed at making it natural for non-Plan 9 clients to log into a full Plan 9 environment with ssh. There never seemed to be a lot of motivation because drawterm seemed to provide a better interface. The main exception would be using sam -r from a non-Plan 9 system. In the end, it ended up being a perfect example of an implementation influenced by lots of "here's something cool that could be done with it" ideas. But then pretty much none of the cool capabilities ever got used. I do still use the client functionality a lot from a Pi 400 running a slightly enhanced copy of Richard's Pi image in the classroom talking to my BSD laptop and the department's Linux cluster. Not that any of that is relevant to the issue you ran into, but it might help provide a little context to anyone wondering how and why that implementation works the way it does. 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