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(Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front) Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> References: <17155935070.19Cc2BF.51884@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <17156013840.6779.8589@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <5933f4a4-11bd-4349-8281-f1751cd4829b@posixcafe.org> <17156126590.a4A4A5.85311@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <17156157800.3fEacD4.597083@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <17159403900.97551b.234475@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <17159455380.EcEa1.476315@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17159455380.EcEa1.476315@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 714fa566-1465-11ef-adc5-8c2657004ccc Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UZTA1MWYyMzBmMjY1NmJiYi1NNGJjODQwNTg5OWZjYzdhOTRiZDQz?= =?UTF-8?B?MWVmPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Kurt H Maier via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M4bc8405899fcc7a94bd431ef:1:b4zLsF6QhkVpr-RyJY_wcqWEPZJkakYD-WZ28TxHSJg On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 07:32:18AM -0400, plan6@room3420.net wrote: > an other interesting reading : > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/critical-analysis-9front-community-conflic= t-vester-thacker-htt3f?trk=3Darticle-ssr-frontend-pulse_more-articles_relat= ed-content-card I love this article very much. Unhelpful, bossy blowhards should experience exactly these emotions. My favorite part was the accusation of "cancel culture," which I have learned is Boomer code for "accountability." They really hate that shit! If 9front has constructed a culture where someone who calls themselves "Innovator Harnessing the Power of Open Source: Transforming Businesses, Empowering Solutions" does not feel welcome, then I am profoundly satsified with that culture, and commend everyone involved in its creation. Anyway, just for the record, nobody in the 9front project has any ill will toward 9legacy. Technical concerns like p9sk1, yes, but everyone agrees there should be *more* Plan 9 out there, not less. We keep suggesting that people fork 9front as well, and make 9front Suit And Tie Edition, Empowering Harnessed Transformative Innovations, with all of the technical goodies and none of the humor or fun, but nobody seems to have the drive to make that happen. If anyone wants help bootstrapping such a project, please let me know and I'll help however I can. The existence of something like that might help deflect all the unfunded mandates people keep trying to demand of the 9front project, and create a nice home for the sorts of people whose primary qualifications are that they like to watch and they've been watching for decades. khm ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te051f230f2656bbb-M4bc84= 05899fcc7a94bd431ef Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription