From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:07:09 +0200 From: elbing To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Investigating the Plan 9 Operating System - OSNews.com In-Reply-To: <44C62E42.1010904@anvil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_69230_19637808.1153843629333" References: <5c04e44072538158af1aa0c3ce3f7349@plan9.bell-labs.com> <44C54D60.9040803@lanl.gov> <44C62E42.1010904@anvil.com> Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8c787146-ead1-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 ------=_Part_69230_19637808.1153843629333 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't read the "9fans list terms of use", but if there is any law to forbid just a thought, please warn me about it. elbing 2006/7/25, Dave Lukes : > > Ronald G Minnich wrote: > > jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > > > > > It's not for me to say whether he should be banned or not, > > Me neither: I don't run the list. > > > > but I would voice the opinion that he needs sensitivity training. > > Yeah, but no, but yeah, but no, but* ... > so do many of us. > > > I think until he grows up, he ought to be banned. The correct > > decision was made. > > There are no "correct" decisions in cases like this, just opinions. > > Speaking as someone who's grandparents died in Auschwitz, > I don't think he should have been banned simply for saying "Sieg Heil", > but I don't know the whole story. > > Empirically, banning things (whether they be people or opinions) doesn't > work: > one needs to embrace and extend. > > Unfortunately, one doesn't always like what one has to embrace. > > D. > > * Little Britain reference. > ------=_Part_69230_19637808.1153843629333 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't read the "9fans list terms of use", but if there is any law to forbid just a thought, please warn me about it.

elbing

2006/7/25, Dave Lukes < davel@anvil.com>:
Ronald G Minnich wrote:
>   jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
>
> > It's not for me to say whether he should be banned or not,

Me neither: I don't run the list.

> > but I would voice the opinion that he needs sensitivity training.

Yeah, but no, but yeah, but no, but* ...
so do many of us.

>  I think until he grows up, he ought to be banned. The correct
>  decision was made.

There are no "correct" decisions in cases like this, just opinions.

Speaking as someone who's grandparents died in Auschwitz,
I don't think he should have been banned simply for saying "Sieg Heil",
but I don't know the whole story.

Empirically, banning things (whether they be people or opinions) doesn't
work:
one needs to embrace and extend.

Unfortunately, one doesn't always like what one has to embrace.

D.

* Little Britain reference.

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