[9fans] tool to htmlize man pages?

[9fans] tool to htmlize man pages?

[David Tolpin]

Hi,

what tool html versions man pages have been created with? Do I understand
correctly that that tool cannot handle tables?

I'd try to fix it if it is still relevant.

David Tolpin

[9fans] iTuner

[Steve Simon]

Had a look at the iTuner - is it really $400? Thats expensive for a 
mini ITX these days (or am I being Naive?).

-Steve

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[ron minnich]

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Steve Simon wrote:

> Had a look at the iTuner - is it really $400? Thats expensive for a 
> mini ITX these days (or am I being Naive?).

naive. 

Yeah the mini itx is cheap. Wrap it up in reasonable sheet metal, with 
that expenso 12V adapter supply, and add in the other junk, and ca. $400 
is about what you'll pay from anyone. It's on the low end. Check out those 
oh-so-fancy british boxes with no fan and brushed metal -- $1200.

ron

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[Charles Forsyth]

>>oh-so-fancy british boxes with no fan and brushed metal -- $1200.

they're for the export market.

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[vdharani]

hi,

>> Had a look at the iTuner - is it really $400? Thats expensive for a
>> mini ITX these days (or am I being Naive?).
>
> naive.
>
> Yeah the mini itx is cheap. Wrap it up in reasonable sheet metal, with
> that expenso 12V adapter supply, and add in the other junk, and ca.
> $400  is about what you'll pay from anyone. It's on the low end. Check
> out those  oh-so-fancy british boxes with no fan and brushed metal --
> $1200.

i decided to spend some money and build a system consisting of a couple of
small machines and try some grid stuff. given that my budget is not too
high (about $500 at best), i was thinking of linksys (wrt54g) or ituner
box. though i like wrt54g, i am hesitating because a) i am not sure how
easy it is to put inferno in it b) i am not sure if i can turn off the
wifi part c) i cant do plan9 grid. now, i am leaning towards ituner stuff
because, hopefully, i can try both plan9 grid and inferno grid.

the board i prefer should be CPU/>=64MB/ethernet/VGA(?). i am thinking of
2+boards. how much would it cost with and without the box?

and how easy or how tough is it to get the first kernel loaded? i think
once i build and load the kernel, i can proceed from there. if someone can
help me, please let me know. once i know the parts, i can order them.

i like the ones i see in 9grid page and i will be happy if i can do a
similar setup to play with.

btw, wouldnt it be nice if 9fans (of similar interest) stick one model
like ituner box? that way, we could have better device support eventually.

any help appreciated.

thanks
dharani

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[ron minnich]

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 vdharani@infernopark.com wrote:

> the board i prefer should be CPU/>=64MB/ethernet/VGA(?). i am thinking of
> 2+boards. how much would it cost with and without the box?

you need a PS per board. If you want to be compact you get those 12V PSes. 
They will cost you $129. Or get cheap PC power supplies for $20 each. But 
then it is a space hog. 

There are no good choices. You can save lotsa money but then you don't 
get something small.

I have found small boxes for (believe it or not!) $12 with PS included 
that you could put the EPIA in. but they are ... ugly and big. 

> and how easy or how tough is it to get the first kernel loaded? i think
> once i build and load the kernel, i can proceed from there. if someone can
> help me, please let me know. once i know the parts, i can order them.

It's just not hard. 

> btw, wouldnt it be nice if 9fans (of similar interest) stick one model
> like ituner box? that way, we could have better device support
> eventually.

We'd still like to sell plan 9 boxes that just come up and work. It's 
meeting everyone's needs that is tough.

ron

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[David Tolpin]

> Had a look at the iTuner?

How am I supposed to install plan9 on iTuner --
copy it to CF elsewhere? I'm sorry if it is a
stupid question.

David

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[Charles Forsyth]

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that's what i've done before with other devices,
using either Plan 9 or Inferno on an existing device
to prepare the CF for the new device.

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From: David Tolpin <dvd@davidashen.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] iTuner
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 01:24:01 +0400 (AMT)
Message-ID: <200403012124.i21LO1IS068717@adat.davidashen.net>

> Had a look at the iTuner?

How am I supposed to install plan9 on iTuner --
copy it to CF elsewhere? I'm sorry if it is a
stupid question.

David

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[Brantley Coile]

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Speaking of sticking something on a CF, what are you
guys using to do this?  I'm just now fiddling with
the usb stuff to talk to my CF reader.

 Brantley

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that's what i've done before with other devices,
using either Plan 9 or Inferno on an existing device
to prepare the CF for the new device.

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From: David Tolpin <dvd@davidashen.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] iTuner
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 01:24:01 +0400 (AMT)
Message-ID: <200403012124.i21LO1IS068717@adat.davidashen.net>

> Had a look at the iTuner?

How am I supposed to install plan9 on iTuner --
copy it to CF elsewhere? I'm sorry if it is a
stupid question.

David

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[ron minnich]

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Brantley Coile wrote:

> Speaking of sticking something on a CF, what are you
> guys using to do this?  I'm just now fiddling with
> the usb stuff to talk to my CF reader.

Linux ...

ron

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[Brantley Coile]

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Yeah, that's what I'm doing now.  I need to move this operation to
Plan 9.  Is it just a matter of writing SCSI commands into the ep1data and
reading the responses from ep2data?

 Brantley

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From: ron minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] iTuner
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:43:15 -0700 (MST)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403011443070.6489-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Brantley Coile wrote:

> Speaking of sticking something on a CF, what are you
> guys using to do this?  I'm just now fiddling with
> the usb stuff to talk to my CF reader.

Linux ...

ron

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[Richard Miller]

> Speaking of sticking something on a CF, what are you
> guys using to do this? ...
>  Is it just a matter of writing SCSI commands into the ep1data and
> reading the responses from ep2data?

Not quite - there's an extra layer of protocol above the scsi commands.
Actually two alternative layers: bulk-only or command-bulk-interrupt.
I've written a driver which supports (so far) only the first -- I'll
take the liberty of emailing you a copy to try.

-- Richard

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[Geoff Collyer]

I boot Plan 9 off floppy to initialise the CF on an IDE interface.

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[Charles Forsyth]

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i used a PCMCIA to CF adapter

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From: Geoff Collyer <geoff@collyer.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] iTuner
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:08:23 -0800
Message-ID: <5f2452b782334756dee75e28d677f1b5@collyer.net>

I boot Plan 9 off floppy to initialise the CF on an IDE interface.

Re: [9fans] iTuner

[ron minnich]

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, David Tolpin wrote:

> How am I supposed to install plan9 on iTuner --
> copy it to CF elsewhere? I'm sorry if it is a
> stupid question.

yeah, you make a cf bootable just as you would an ide drive. 

ron