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From: "Rudolf Sykora" <rudolf.sykora@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] bug in rio: unhiding deleted windows
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:52:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a560a5d00811261152mc310474g46e484f8cfdda82b@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <515b2b3a3bd91e7fd9b7e7e78d03deed@quanstro.net>

> the problem is that the fs proc and the keboard thread both fiddle with
> the the hidden array.  in the style of rio, the solution would be
> along the lines of sending a message (say) the keyboard thread to hide
> the window.  since windows have unique ids, sending a message like
> "hide 72" would be unambiguous.
What do you mean by unique ids? I think it is not enough to have a
unique id at just one instant. We need a unique id for a qualitatively
long time (i.e. infinite). It seems to me that numbers in /dev/wsys do
not get reused, which would be just wanted, but is it really so?

> acme has similar problems that tend to show up on laggy connections.
what actually happens?

> why?  i don't think it makes sense to say static sizes are unequivicablly bad.
> static allocation has advantages.  it's simplier and less error prone, and
It's simpler in C, because dynamic allocation in C is a pain. If I
were writing a window manager in say python, I wouldn't think about
any allocation problems, I guess. I would just make a dictionary of
windows hashed by a window's id and that would just work. Maybe I only
have a very distorted view on it. I've never programmed anything like
that.

> there are no concurrency considerations.  there are always tradeoffs.
I can't see what you mean by concurrency considerations. :(

Ruda



  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-26 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-08 20:51 andrey mirtchovski
2008-10-10 11:53 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 12:32   ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-10-10 12:54     ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-10 20:23       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2008-10-11  3:05         ` Russ Cox
2008-10-11 11:11           ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 13:15     ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-10-10 13:21       ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 13:18         ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-10 14:02           ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 14:41             ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-10 15:25               ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 15:21                 ` erik quanstrom
2008-10-10 15:42                   ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 15:33                 ` ron minnich
2008-10-10 15:41                   ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 16:20                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-10-10 16:26                       ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 16:30                         ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-10-10 16:43                           ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-10 15:45                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-10-10 16:36               ` matt
2008-10-10 16:40                 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-10-11 12:44                 ` erik quanstrom
2008-11-23 19:50 ` Rudolf Sykora
2008-11-23 21:51   ` erik quanstrom
2008-11-26 19:52     ` Rudolf Sykora [this message]
2008-11-26 20:55       ` erik quanstrom

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