From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7aee91501001230115q5285b2ebyd2df99db84f6855d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7aee91501001230115q5285b2ebyd2df99db84f6855d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:52:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: Rudolf Sykora To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows? Topicbox-Message-UUID: c4874c3e-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > 1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable. In case of being in an editor, editing some text, I'd say your idea has a point. Also I find it disturbing when instead of moving up one line the scrolling comes instead. On the other hand, being in a rio window or an acme win window, moving the cursor up or down using the arrows doesn't have much sense (in any case you have to use a mouse to do something useful with a text there). What I'd appreciate, from the user's point of view, would be some kind of history mechanism tied to the up/down keys in rio/win (where I interact with a shell), up arrow bringing up the last command e.g., and a normal movement behaviour when editing a 'text' file (no direct interaction with the shell, where 'enter' is just a newline). On the other hand, implementing such a mechanism would probably lead to ugly complications, which might be better be avoided. For now, simplicity wins. Btw., I know the " and "" scripts by R Cox, I use them. Without something like them, it would be hell. Anyhow, hitting the up/down key a few times is just quicker. R