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From: sl@9front.org
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?
Date: Wed,  7 May 2014 17:38:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a76458dfd06fb48b58b559b2e5fdad94@pi.att> (raw)

>>  Why is this controversial?
>
> Because you're missing the point, and arguing against a
> position nobody holds.

The original post (in its way) was asking for advice about
an amd64 kernel that is not publicly available. Some people
(not knowing the full situation) offered advice about publicly
available amd64 kernels and were shot down.

Everything else follows from that. I agree, it's a bit
muddled at this point, but I've been responding directly
to things people have said. The mailing lists for each fork
are open to the public. E-mail addresses of principles are
all known. The only people who aren't at the party are the
ones who haven't bothered to show up. Again, where is the
problem? Are we supposed to hire professional coordinators
to make the process seem more official? It seems to me the
sort-of-articulated complaint is that all of this work is
not being conducted under the watchful eye of a centralized
authority.

Do you mean something like patch(1)? With work being
coordinated by staff at Bell Labs?


> What some folks are suggesting is that some coordination
> would yield better results; that we can do better than the
> "everyone going off and doing their own thing" part of the
> above scenarios.

People working on the forks are in constant contact. How could
the situation be improved?

My observation was that secret code helps no one. Maybe the
code is not really secret, but is instead held up somewhere
in the coordination process.

For years, and years, and years at a time.

sl



             reply	other threads:[~2014-05-07 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-07 21:38 sl [this message]
2014-05-07 22:32 ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07 22:39   ` Bakul Shah
2014-05-08  1:38   ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-08  8:41     ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-08 14:06     ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-08 14:14       ` balaji
2014-05-08 14:20         ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07 22:46 ` Anthony Sorace
2014-05-07 23:01 ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07 23:51   ` erik quanstrom
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-08 13:45 erik quanstrom
2014-05-08 13:55 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-08 16:35   ` Jeremy Jackins
2014-05-08 17:16     ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-08 17:47       ` Jeremy Jackins
2014-05-07 23:37 sl
2014-05-07 23:29 sl
2014-05-07 23:42 ` andrey mirtchovski
2014-05-07 22:36 sl
2014-05-07 20:56 sl
2014-05-07 21:17 ` Anthony Sorace
2014-05-07 21:33   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2014-05-08 11:57     ` lucio
2014-05-08 12:03       ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-08 12:39         ` lucio
2014-05-07 19:57 sl
2014-05-07 20:06 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07 20:11   ` Jacob Todd
2014-05-07 20:19     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2014-05-08 12:11       ` lucio
2014-05-07 18:56 sl
2014-05-07 19:53 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07 18:29 sl
2014-05-07 18:48 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-08  5:56   ` lucio
2014-05-08  8:58     ` cinap_lenrek
2014-05-08 11:20       ` lucio
2014-05-08 12:07         ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-08 12:46           ` lucio
2014-05-08 13:15             ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-08 13:48               ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-08 14:07                 ` lucio
2014-05-08 14:04               ` lucio
2014-05-08 14:15                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-08 14:51                   ` lucio
2014-05-08 14:56                     ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-08 15:16                       ` lucio
2014-05-08 10:55     ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07  1:14 sl
2014-05-06 21:00 yan cui
2014-05-06 21:33 ` cinap_lenrek
2014-05-06 21:48   ` yan cui
2014-05-06 21:47 ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-06 21:53   ` yan cui
2014-05-06 21:56   ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-06 21:59     ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-06 22:02       ` cinap_lenrek
2014-05-06 22:05       ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07  5:14         ` lucio
2014-05-07  5:38           ` David du Colombier
2014-05-07  6:59             ` lucio
2014-05-07  8:38               ` Riddler
2014-05-07  8:59                 ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07  9:05             ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07  9:10               ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07  9:16                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07  9:42                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07  9:23               ` David du Colombier
2014-05-07  9:25                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07  9:31             ` David du Colombier
2014-05-07 11:13               ` lucio
2014-05-07 11:30                 ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07 14:36                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07 17:51                   ` lucio
2014-05-07 18:22                     ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-08  5:39                       ` lucio
2014-05-07  8:45           ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07  9:12             ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07  9:20               ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07  9:21                 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07 12:59                 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-07 13:36                   ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07 14:39                     ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-06 22:09 ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-07  0:40 ` erik quanstrom
2014-05-07  1:01   ` Charles Forsyth
2014-05-07  1:12     ` Kurt H Maier
2014-05-07  1:39       ` Charles Forsyth

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