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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@labs.coraid.com>
To: corey@bitworthy.net, 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] how to lock cpu console
Date: Wed,  1 Sep 2010 15:52:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a871f53b5e7efc43e3707ab2771b53a7@coraid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201009011214.12488.corey@bitworthy.net>

> Also, a logical fallacy:  Since X could sometimes be used to thwart Y, then
> Y is useless in all cases.

i think the correct statement of the thinking (or
at least my thinking) is

	we want to assert X, but
	since Y defeats X, we require !Y to assert X.

in something closer to english, the assertion is that
if one requires a secure server, you've got to have physical
security.  since there are too many easy ways to circumvent
most known security measures given physical access.

i don't think this assertion has anything to say about
console locking, just that it doesn't solve the stated problem—
execepting, of course, if the data on non-volatile storage is
is encrypted and the key is lost on reboot.

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-01 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-31 14:20 baux80
2010-08-31 14:31 ` Robert Raschke
2010-08-31 14:55 ` John Floren
2010-08-31 15:04   ` erik quanstrom
2010-08-31 15:25     ` David Leimbach
2010-08-31 15:25     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-08-31 18:18       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-08-31 19:54         ` andrey mirtchovski
2010-08-31 20:45       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-09-01  4:21         ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-09-01  4:44           ` John Floren
2010-09-01 15:11           ` erik quanstrom
2010-09-01 16:57             ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-09-01 17:22               ` erik quanstrom
2010-09-01 17:44                 ` John Floren
2010-09-01 18:14                   ` erik quanstrom
2010-09-01 18:31                     ` John Floren
2010-09-01 18:51                       ` erik quanstrom
2010-09-01 19:41                         ` John Floren
2010-09-01 18:24                   ` frank
2010-09-01 17:56                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-09-01 10:09         ` baux80
2010-09-01 10:09         ` baux80 at gmail.com
2010-09-01  9:56     ` baux80
2010-09-01  9:56     ` baux80 at gmail.com
     [not found]     ` <E1Oqk2g-0003Ze-1W@gouda.swtch.com>
2010-09-01 19:14       ` Corey
2010-09-01 19:52         ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2010-09-01 20:23           ` Corey
2010-09-01  9:48   ` baux80 at gmail.com
2010-09-01  9:48   ` baux80
2010-08-31 14:20 baux80 at gmail.com
     [not found] <E1OqRh3-0005IS-Hi@gouda.swtch.com>
2010-08-31 14:29 ` erik quanstrom

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