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From: mycroftiv@sphericalharmony.com
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 professional engineers, tear up your NDAs!
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:27:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a98e8263d3a5d44c5659801c2d432626@sphericalharmony.com> (raw)

> See this thread for a hint:

> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/comp.os.plan9/2PwnP0KfJ5A

I knew the outline of this but I hadn't read the exact thread.  The
idea that there is an either/or choice is ridiculous.  I would think
Rob Pike and RSC are plenty smart enough to run Qemu Plan 9 on a
random linux box and Drawterm in.  One decent linux server could run
Qemu Plan 9s for anyone in Google who wanted it, and they can Drawterm
in and have beautiful integration of Plan 9 with their native os.

How can RSC and Rob Pike not be doing the very simple things which
allow you to build a composite environment that has the strenghts of
both?  I have a mixed grid that has 4 native plan 9 boxes, 1 local
linux box, 2 remote linux boxes, and 2 remote plan 9 nodes.  You would
think that if a random hippie from 4chan can love Plan 9 enough to
figure out how to build a personal grid that smoothly integrates all
these resources and keeps my data backed up and gives me the most
wonderful computing environment in the world - so would those guys.

Hey, Original Plan 9 guys - I LOVE YOU BUT CMON HERE!!!

You don't have to go crazy like I did!  Just have google set up a
linux server of Qemu Plan 9 nodes and everyone has drawterm.  In fact
tell the Google guys they should use the 9queen.gz ANTS Qemu image
that is fully installed and ready to use, if they are lazy.

Anyway, it is truly shocking to me to see the totally false dichotomy
of "either/or" used by the Google guys to justify not making active
use of Plan 9.  Using Plan 9 doesn't mean giving up anything else,
because they made it network transparent!

Despite what the Google guys are up to, I am still quite confident
that there are some people somewhere in the world doing amazing things
with 9P, and then Not Discussing It Publicly, Especially Not With
Crazy Anti-Patent Hippies.

I think it's lame that there aren't more people doing the same things
I am, and building mid-to-large sized home/office grids. Even when
people don't want to track down native hardware, it isn't hard to
build a grid on one box with virtual machines to explore what Plan 9
does beyond the 4-node frontier, where things get truly magical as
multiple cpus share root and import all the important synthetic fses
to share things.

Plan Nine is worth going crazy over, people.

-Ben Kidwell
"mycroftiv"

Here's a poem for the p9pers at Google:

If you don't have a real namespace
Install Plan 9 or else lose face!
Time for revolution on the moon base
Plan 9 from Bell Labs to outer space




             reply	other threads:[~2013-03-17 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-17 10:27 mycroftiv [this message]
2013-03-17 10:48 ` vvs009
2013-03-17 15:37   ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-17 16:24     ` vvs009
2013-03-17 16:43       ` hiro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-03-17 11:44 mycroftiv
2013-03-17 12:30 ` vvs009
2013-03-17 12:47   ` vvs009
2013-03-17 11:13 mycroftiv
2013-03-17  7:06 mycroftiv
2013-03-17  8:53 ` Richard Miller
2013-03-17 10:31 ` vvs009

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