[9fans] imap4d OSX client

[9fans] imap4d OSX client

[ron minnich]

I don't understand this problem, I hope someone does.

imap folders on mac mail clients don't get along with plan 9, and
never have, with errors like this:
imap4d at 1279866051: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:20:51 PDT 2010
imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Apple as status failed:
''/mail/box/maya/Apple' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Deleted as status failed:
''/mail/box/maya/Deleted' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010

They do, however, exist. Where to start debugging this kind of thing?

Thanks

ron

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[erik quanstrom]

On Sat Jul 24 14:44:03 EDT 2010, rminnich@gmail.com wrote:
> I don't understand this problem, I hope someone does.
>
> imap folders on mac mail clients don't get along with plan 9, and
> never have, with errors like this:
> imap4d at 1279866051: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
> ''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:20:51 PDT 2010
> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Apple as status failed:
> ''/mail/box/maya/Apple' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Deleted as status failed:
> ''/mail/box/maya/Deleted' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
> ''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
>
> They do, however, exist. Where to start debugging this kind of thing?

i know that nupas works fine with apple mail.

- erik

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

I think I'm using the std upas (although with planb mailboxes) with apple mail.
IIRC, what I did the last time I had problems was to enable imap4d diagnostics
(don't remember if a flag or I did put some prints). That gives you an
exact idea of
all the madness regarding mail movements that apple does.

hth

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:10 PM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
> On Sat Jul 24 14:44:03 EDT 2010, rminnich@gmail.com wrote:
>> I don't understand this problem, I hope someone does.
>>
>> imap folders on mac mail clients don't get along with plan 9, and
>> never have, with errors like this:
>> imap4d at 1279866051: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
>> ''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:20:51 PDT 2010
>> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Apple as status failed:
>> ''/mail/box/maya/Apple' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
>> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Deleted as status failed:
>> ''/mail/box/maya/Deleted' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
>> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
>> ''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
>>
>> They do, however, exist. Where to start debugging this kind of thing?
>
> i know that nupas works fine with apple mail.
>
> - erik
>
>

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[ron minnich]

Thanks for that, the decision the customer used in the end was to move
to me.com.

The Cloud cometh.

ron

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[erik quanstrom]

On Sat Jul 24 16:37:15 EDT 2010, rminnich@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for that, the decision the customer used in the end was to move
> to me.com.
>
> The Cloud cometh.

it's unfortunate that we have better software, and don't use it.

- erik

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[hiro]

It's unfortunate that the universe isn't perfect.
What is better?

On 7/25/10, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote:
> On Sat Jul 24 16:37:15 EDT 2010, rminnich@gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks for that, the decision the customer used in the end was to move
>> to me.com.
>>
>> The Cloud cometh.
>
> it's unfortunate that we have better software, and don't use it.
>
> - erik
>
>

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[Andreas Eriksen]

Too late, but … Apples Mail.app creates folders named "Apple Mail", "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Messages". Perhaps the problem is caused by the spaces in these mailbox names.

A possible workaround: create IMAP folders with proper names, open Mail.app and select "Use this mailbox for -> [Drafts|Sent|Trash|Junk]" in the Mailbox menu. I don't know what the "Apple Mail" folder is used for, but it can't be changed this way.

– Andreas

On 24. Jul, 2010, at 8:41 PM, ron minnich wrote:

> I don't understand this problem, I hope someone does.
> 
> imap folders on mac mail clients don't get along with plan 9, and
> never have, with errors like this:
> imap4d at 1279866051: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
> ''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:20:51 PDT 2010
> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Apple as status failed:
> ''/mail/box/maya/Apple' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Deleted as status failed:
> ''/mail/box/maya/Deleted' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
> ''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
> 
> They do, however, exist. Where to start debugging this kind of thing?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ron
> 

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[Ethan Grammatikidis]

On 25 Jul 2010, at 19:04, Andreas Eriksen wrote:

> Too late, but … Apples Mail.app creates folders named "Apple Mail",  
> "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Messages". Perhaps the problem is  
> caused by the spaces in these mailbox names.

The shell has some issues with spaces in filenames because it needs to  
separate arguments somehow. Why does nupas have issues?

I've never looked at nupas, but if it involves shell scripts; well, I  
managed to get rc-httpd to deal with spaces in file names without too  
much trouble. rc doesn't make it too hard to do. Maybe I'll have a  
look at nupas when I'm more awake.

>
> A possible workaround: create IMAP folders with proper names, open  
> Mail.app and select "Use this mailbox for -> [Drafts|Sent|Trash| 
> Junk]" in the Mailbox menu. I don't know what the "Apple Mail"  
> folder is used for, but it can't be changed this way.
>
> – Andreas
>
> On 24. Jul, 2010, at 8:41 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>
>> I don't understand this problem, I hope someone does.
>>
>> imap folders on mac mail clients don't get along with plan 9, and
>> never have, with errors like this:
>> imap4d at 1279866051: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
>> ''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:20:51 PDT 2010
>> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Apple as status failed:
>> ''/mail/box/maya/Apple' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
>> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Deleted as status failed:
>> ''/mail/box/maya/Deleted' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT  
>> 2010
>> imap4d at 1279866351: upas/fs open maya/Sent as status failed:
>> ''/mail/box/maya/Sent' does not exist' Thu Jul 22 23:25:51 PDT 2010
>>
>> They do, however, exist. Where to start debugging this kind of thing?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> ron
>>
>
>

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[erik quanstrom]

> > Too late, but … Apples Mail.app creates folders named "Apple Mail",
> > "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Messages". Perhaps the problem is
> > caused by the spaces in these mailbox names.
>
> The shell has some issues with spaces in filenames because it needs to
> separate arguments somehow. Why does nupas have issues?
>
> I've never looked at nupas, but if it involves shell scripts; well, I
> managed to get rc-httpd to deal with spaces in file names without too
> much trouble. rc doesn't make it too hard to do. Maybe I'll have a
> look at nupas when I'm more awake.

nupas does not have issues with spaces in folder names.
it replaces ' ' with # and # with ##; classic character stuffing.

all the apple mail users at coraid have folders like Sent##Messages.

the distribution imap4d can have issues with spaces in folder names
and ken fs.  i have not confirmed with fossil.

- erik

Re: [9fans] imap4d OSX client

[erik quanstrom]

> Too late, but … Apples Mail.app creates folders named "Apple Mail", "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Messages". Perhaps the problem is caused by the spaces in these mailbox names.

oh, and by the way, the failure to create a 'Sent Messages' folder
isn't the reason that upas (not nupas) has trouble with Mail.app.
i've forgotten what the issue was.

- erik