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From: C H Forsyth <forsyth@vitanuova.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] datakit
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:45:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa77f8afc54f41306bc38b693b325edc@vitanuova.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4697c901caf1f3aef38bcb285334b6ea@collyer.net>

>>We could certainly have done worse, OSI being the scariest of the
>>possible disasters (and it's not quite dead yet, it keeps popping up
>>in places like LDAP!).

until recently i felt one hasn't actually needed
all that many RFCs implemented to get on with the world.

the complexity creature from the OSI swamp seems to have reappeared not
just in L(!)DAP but more cunningly in XML disguise in WS-* land.
like many successors WS begins to make
some of the worst cursed predecessors start to look good:
a vast and growing collection of incomplete complexity,
perhaps it's revenge for disdaining PL/1 and JCL.
Gods!  A hideous beast, baying is pursuing us!

more seriously, i observed the other day to someone that
the curious thing about the rise of complexity this time is
that as far as i can tell, there seems to be no significant
counter-culture to it, as there has been in times past.
``where you gonna go?  where you gonna run? ...''
i say that in the hopes that someone will say:
it's just building up momentum over here ...


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-20  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-19 15:11 Steve Simon
2004-08-20  1:35 ` geoff
2004-08-20  1:52   ` George Michaelson
2004-08-20  2:43     ` geoff
2004-08-20  3:09       ` George Michaelson
2004-08-20  5:46         ` geoff
2004-08-21  0:33           ` ron minnich
2004-08-21  4:51             ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-21 14:22             ` Brantley Coile
2004-08-22  9:50               ` Tim Newsham
2004-08-23  2:50               ` ron minnich
2004-08-20 14:13         ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-20  9:45       ` C H Forsyth [this message]
2004-08-20 12:55         ` Long Political Rant. Was: [Re: [9fans] datakit] Dave Lukes
2004-08-20 16:45           ` Jack Johnson
2004-08-20 16:59             ` rog
2004-08-20 13:06         ` [9fans] datakit Wes Kussmaul
2004-08-20 16:51         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2004-08-20 17:07           ` rog
2004-08-22 19:06             ` Jack Johnson
2004-08-20 18:41           ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-21 16:37             ` Boris Maryshev
2004-08-21 17:19             ` Boris Maryshev
2004-08-20  3:30     ` ron minnich
2004-08-20 14:24       ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-23 15:04         ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-08-23 15:27           ` ron minnich
2004-08-20 13:48   ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-20  5:05 dmr
2004-08-20  5:35 ` George Michaelson

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