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(Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Correlation-ID: Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4ab73472-1100-11ef-9e09-f57dea5ce4f7 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UY2YxMjhmYTk1NWI4YWFmYy1NZDY5NTE2ZjNkZjdkZGNmZGZmYTc1?= =?UTF-8?B?NjEzPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Md69516f3df7ddcfdffa75613:1:IB8SELbLjDgM365lZNSKh37M-bdlyMOvv8yPqiewqVI Hey all, Just about one topic mentioned by ibrahim: You mentioned that 9front can't be plan 9 in your perspective because of th= is licensing and the "origin" of the licensing. > 9front isn't plan9 from my perspective. Plan 9 is the final release with = patches for the files from sources I can be sure that those aren't taken fr= om open source projects by copy and paste. [1] I would make a big difference between what plan 9 is and what the licenses = are. Software doesn't care about licenses. People do (and they should!). So what is plan 9 even? Can we compare it to UNIX=E2=84=A2 or unix or posix= ? Who knows... I guess I could say a lot more about that topic, but I guess that's enough = and you can puzzle everything else yourself. [1] (I would be very careful with such bold words. I feel like 9front peopl= e have heard this phrase a lot and it's probably very thin ice for a few pe= ople.) --- About another topic: you mentioned that plan 9 is in use for commercial pro= ducts, and you explicitly mention german medical sensors. I've never heard = about that and I'd like to learn more, as well as about other companies who= actually use plan 9. Everything I always hear in the industry is that plan 9 is outdated and nob= ody uses it and nobody wants to hear about it. I only know of a single comp= any that uses it (coraid), plus a few little projects by taw that could evo= lve into commercial products. I sometimes thought about building a list of companies that use plan 9 tech= nology, just so people can get involved with them, and now that I'm searchi= ng for a new job that's even more interesting for me personally. (Not sure = if I want to do plan 9 as $dayjob, but I could see it as an option.) That t= opic should end up in a new thread however (or even a DM). sirjofri ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tcf128fa955b8aafc-Md6951= 6f3df7ddcfdffa75613 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription