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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:55:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae7f936dbd1fcf19b1cd1e7b92d2dea8@brasstown.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130323173739.GA3314@polynum.com>

> I remember when I started to work in a surveyor office. There was
> microstation, back in early 90s, that ran on a DOS extender with a 
> perfect graphical performance (you were able to work flawlessly, 
> zooming, panning or whatever). You were never waiting for the
> application or the display; it worked faster than your input.
> 
> Once Windows "improved" came, it took several years for the computers to
> give the very same user experience, by an order of magnitude increase in
> power for the "PC". It had to recover from Windows improvements first...

yes.  this is a big problem.  incremental improvement often fails.
and we see this today with newer phones performing poorly with
"new and improved" software.

the way to get out of this trap is to provide real improvement
by doing something new.  (the term of art is "disruptive"—a
rather annoying term. :-)) obviously the new approach isn't going
to be as polished as the old approach.  but if the new thing
is a real improvement, folks will put up with the regressions
in unimportant areas.

there was an old way to say this, "you can't make an omlette
without breaking a few eggs".  :-)

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-23 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-23  9:45 tlaronde
2013-03-23  9:53 ` Richard Miller
2013-03-23  9:56   ` Steve Simon
2013-03-23 21:34     ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:05   ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:24     ` lucio
2013-03-23 11:40       ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 12:25         ` lucio
2013-03-23 16:06         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 16:09           ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 16:19             ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 16:23               ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 16:39                 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 17:15                   ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 17:20                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 19:29                       ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:31                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-23 19:34                           ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:33                         ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:39                           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 19:58                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 20:11                               ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-24  0:44                         ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-23 17:23                     ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:30                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 17:44                       ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:52                         ` Nemo
2013-03-23 17:31                     ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:33                     ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:37                     ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 17:55                       ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2013-03-23 19:13                         ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 19:23                           ` ron minnich
2013-03-23 19:56                             ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 23:45                               ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-23 23:58                                 ` Bruce Ellis
2013-03-24  8:49                                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-24  9:02                                   ` Steve Simon
2013-03-24  9:22                                     ` lucio
2013-03-30 19:49                                 ` ron minnich
2013-03-25 14:45                             ` Nicolas Bercher
2013-03-23 19:17                         ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:19                           ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:32                           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-23 19:37                             ` Rob Pike
2013-03-23 19:43                               ` Rob Pike
2013-03-24  0:46                                 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-23 19:45                               ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-03-25  9:43                               ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option for Plan9) dexen deVries
2013-03-25 10:26                                 ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 10:33                                   ` hiro
2013-03-25 10:40                                     ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 10:42                                       ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 11:00                                       ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 10:40                                     ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-25 10:43                                     ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 11:02                                       ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option lucio
2013-03-25 11:09                                       ` [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option for Plan9) Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 13:30                                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 11:16                                       ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 11:55                                         ` Charles Forsyth
2013-03-25 12:10                                           ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 20:37                                       ` Steve Simon
2013-03-25 13:35                                   ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 14:38                                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25 17:30                                 ` Ori Bernstein
2013-03-23 23:03                           ` [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9 David Leimbach
2013-03-23 19:29                         ` hiro
2013-03-23 17:47                     ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-24  0:41                     ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-24  9:48                     ` tlaronde
2013-03-24 11:56                       ` Dustin Fechner
2013-03-24 12:03                         ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 16:20             ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-03-23 16:37             ` lucio
2013-03-25  5:48           ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-25  6:27             ` lucio
2013-03-25 16:45               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25 19:04                 ` lucio
2013-03-25 19:19                   ` sl
2013-03-25 19:31                     ` aram
2013-03-25 19:35                       ` sl
2013-03-26 22:01                         ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-26 22:05                           ` sl
2013-03-26 22:17                             ` Bence Fábián
2013-03-25 20:18                       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26  4:45                         ` lucio
2013-03-26  6:03                           ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26  9:44                           ` iainws
2013-03-26 12:07                           ` sl
2013-03-26 12:11                             ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26 12:16                               ` dexen deVries
2013-03-26 12:16                               ` hiro
2013-03-26 12:20                                 ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26 12:57                               ` Charles Forsyth
2013-03-26 13:04                                 ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-03-26  8:28                       ` dexen deVries
2013-03-25 19:38                   ` erik quanstrom
2013-03-25 19:46                     ` lucio
2013-03-25 19:51                       ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25 19:58                         ` tlaronde
2013-03-25 19:51                     ` sl
2013-03-25 20:13                     ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-26  9:43               ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2013-03-23 17:08         ` hiro
2013-03-25  5:53           ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23  9:54 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 10:10   ` tlaronde
2013-03-23 10:15     ` Peter A. Cejchan
2013-03-23 12:17 ` Bakul Shah
2013-03-23 12:48   ` lucio
2013-03-25  1:00 Winston Kodogo
2013-03-25  1:20 ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25  1:24   ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25  1:27     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2013-03-25  1:36   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25  1:42     ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25  1:45       ` Jacob Todd
2013-03-25  1:47         ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-03-25  1:54       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-03-25  2:02         ` Dan Cross
2013-03-25  2:08           ` Kurt H Maier

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