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From: uriel@cat-v.org
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:02:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aed4ca8ded86ebf26379487fda428c02@cat-v.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57a21f730603290109u5d84c41flba269d2ef2f4da0f@mail.gmail.com>

>> It happens because engineers are too lazy or scared to try to
>> understand the code they are modifying, and a layer seems safer.  My
>> case was 3 years of 2 code teams.  Imagine 10 years of open-source-
>> like distributed development :-(
>
> your experience tallies with slide 24 from jerome saltzer's "coping
> with complexity":
>
>     Why aren't abstraction, modularity, hierarchy, and layers enough?
>     - First, you must understand what you are doing.
>     - It is easy to create abstractions; it is hard to discover the
> *right* abstraction.
>     - It is hard to change the abstractions later.
>     (ditto for modularity, hierarchy, and layers)

Thanks for the pointer, this are the most interesting slides I have
read in a long time.  Here is the PDF version in case someone has not
read them yet:

http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/Saltzerthumbnails.pdf

I'm starting to suspect that the more resources a software project
has, worse are the result.

Maybe that means that there is hope for Plan 9; while we barely
survive, the rest of the world with 10000 times more resources invests
all those resources in shooting themselves in the foot...  with XML
bullets, of course.

uriel



  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-29 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-28  0:48 erik quanstrom
2006-03-28 14:59 ` Anthony Sorace
2006-03-28 15:23   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-28 15:57 ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-03-28 17:29   ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-28 17:47     ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-03-29  0:27       ` Fernan Bolando
2006-03-29  2:49         ` geoff
2006-03-29  7:29           ` geoff
2006-03-29  2:07     ` Paul Lalonde
2006-03-29  3:17       ` quanstro
2006-03-29  3:56         ` Paul Lalonde
2006-03-29  9:09       ` Taj Khattra
2006-03-29 16:02         ` uriel [this message]
2006-03-29 22:03           ` Taj Khattra
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-29  1:13 erik quanstrom
2006-03-27  4:30 Fernan Bolando
2006-03-27  6:50 ` geoff
2006-03-27  7:25 ` Steve Simon
2006-03-27  9:18   ` Fernan Bolando
2006-03-27 13:10     ` Lluís Batlle
2006-03-27 17:26       ` Fernan Bolando
2006-03-28  0:38     ` Anthony Sorace
2006-03-28 13:59   ` Eric Grosse

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