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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] sleep(2) historical question
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:29:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af511777e3d6f6c786784efc43886515@ladd.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121128185827.863CFB827@mail.bitblocks.com>

> > None of the applications look likely to need microsecond let alone
> > nanosecond resolution, and that seems reasonable to me.
> > One exception is sleep(0), but that's yield()
> 
> Chicken and egg.

i think so.

> > > None of the applications look likely to need microsecond let alone
> > > nanosecond resolution, and that seems reasonable to me.
> > > One exception is sleep(0), but that's yield()
> > 
> > you haven't explained how one can emulate a sub-ms
> > sleep with the edf scheduler.  i've got a legit problem.
> 
> Why not add nsleep() with sleeptime in nanosecond units?  And
> of course, any necessary kernel changes for better accuracy.

as it turns out, for anything i had in mind, the kernel already can
do about 10x what i need.  i need maybe 500µs, and i can get 50µs
at 4% error.

the only problem i see with just adding nsleep is it introduces a
second time base, and potentially any time-based call (tsemacquire)
would need to be doubled.  i would prefer for the end state to be
1 user space time base.  but the difficulty is getting there.  at the
least, the syscall# would change.

> The whole idea of a kernel HZ clock seems a bit outdated now.
> If the system has nothing do for the next N seconds, it should
> may be go into low-power mode & just wait for an interrupt.

and when you have things to do, the hz clock is just an unnecessary
interruption.

- erik



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-28 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-27 23:19 erik quanstrom
2012-11-28  7:37 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-28 12:57   ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-28 13:10     ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-28 13:30       ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-28 14:35         ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-28 14:46           ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-28 18:58         ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-28 19:10           ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-28 19:28             ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-28 18:56               ` cinap_lenrek
2012-11-28 19:38             ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-28 20:58               ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-28 21:02                 ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-28 21:13                   ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-28 21:19                     ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-28 21:21                     ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-28 21:43                 ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-29  0:12                   ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-29  8:12                   ` arnold
2012-11-29  9:19                     ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-29 15:17                       ` erik quanstrom
2012-11-28 19:27           ` David Arnold
2012-11-28 21:12             ` Charles Forsyth
2012-11-28 19:29           ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2012-11-28 19:54             ` Bakul Shah
2012-11-28 19:57               ` erik quanstrom

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