[9fans] vm ongoing woes

[9fans] vm ongoing woes

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

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Just to add to the misery, I tried a 9atom (from three days ago) install
in Parallels 6.0.12090.660720 (2011-05-26 build date, apparently). It
hangs after lamenting "igbe: unusable PciCLS: 0, using 8 longs."

Screenshot attached, FWIW.

--annoyed

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Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

> --annoyed

At Parallels, not Eric.

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[erik quanstrom]

On Wed Jun 22 20:31:59 EDT 2011, lyndon@orthanc.ca wrote:
> > --annoyed
>
> At Parallels, not Eric.

don't worry about it.

- erik

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

> don't worry about it.

I was worried about the mailing list, and not you my son ;-)

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

But speaking of annoyed, have you done any DSDT rewrites to get gear
going? From what I've seen of EFI it seems like it's just an excuse to
rewrite all the fucked up ACPI tables they (read: intel) got wrong the
first time around. sigh.

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[erik quanstrom]

On Wed Jun 22 20:41:07 EDT 2011, lyndon@orthanc.ca wrote:
> But speaking of annoyed, have you done any DSDT rewrites to get gear
> going? From what I've seen of EFI it seems like it's just an excuse to
> rewrite all the fucked up ACPI tables they (read: intel) got wrong the
> first time around. sigh.

in concept, bios was a much better idea than either.  sadly time marched
on and rather than work out what a reasonable 32-bit or 64-bit bios might
look like, we got a real second system.

i do have plan 9 running on some supposedly-efi-based motherboards
from intel.  clearly if they really were booting in efi mode, i wouldn't
get that far.

- erik

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[ron minnich]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
> But speaking of annoyed, have you done any DSDT rewrites to get gear going?
> From what I've seen of EFI it seems like it's just an excuse to rewrite all
> the fucked up ACPI tables they (read: intel) got wrong the first time
> around. sigh.
>
>

oh no. EFI is much worse than that. It's an operating system written
by people who never understood the lessons learned by Unix in 1970.
I'm not kidding.

ron

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[erik quanstrom]

> oh no. EFI is much worse than that. It's an operating system written
> by people who never understood the lessons learned by Unix in 1970.
> I'm not kidding.

that's not a surprise.  nobody else does.  especially the linux guys.

- erik

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[dexen deVries]

On Thursday 23 June 2011 17:09:56 ron minnich wrote:
> oh no. EFI is much worse than that. It's an operating system written
> by people who never understood the lessons learned by Unix in 1970.
> I'm not kidding.

can one run a web browser directly on it? ;-)
(only half kidding there)

--
dexen deVries

``One can't proceed from the informal to the formal by formal means.''

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[David Leimbach]

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On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:18 AM, dexen deVries <dexen.devries@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thursday 23 June 2011 17:09:56 ron minnich wrote:
> > oh no. EFI is much worse than that. It's an operating system written
> > by people who never understood the lessons learned by Unix in 1970.
> > I'm not kidding.
>
> can one run a web browser directly on it? ;-)
> (only half kidding there)
>

Emacs and Python work on EFI, so yes.


>
> --
> dexen deVries
>
> ``One can't proceed from the informal to the formal by formal means.''
>
>

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Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[erik quanstrom]

i've incorporated the patch and rerolled the cd.  unfortunately
it's not tested because i don't have any igbe anymore.  the change
to the eeprom access might be a problem, but i think just an extra
clock cycle should be okay.

you may wish to download just the kernel.

- erik

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

> you may wish to download just the kernel.

I've given up on Parallels. And VMware (where I leapt to after Parallels 5
stopped working).  For half the price of either, Craigslist will spit up
hardware that will run Plan 9 on bare metal.

Re: [9fans] vm ongoing woes

[erik quanstrom]

On Wed Jun 22 21:12:01 EDT 2011, lyndon@orthanc.ca wrote:
> > you may wish to download just the kernel.
>
> I've given up on Parallels. And VMware (where I leapt to after Parallels 5
> stopped working).  For half the price of either, Craigslist will spit up
> hardware that will run Plan 9 on bare metal.

if you're (or anyone else for that matter) are in a position
to confirm a fix, i'd appreciate it.

- erik