Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

[Jacob Moody <moody@posixcafe.org>]

For the sake of time I am going to just reply here after
reading all of the existing thread

On 5/10/24 03:17, Lucio De Re wrote:
>> why don't you just let 9legacy die?
> 
> You are not paying attention: I have a multi-gigabyte commitment to Fossil. I am not convinced *I* could "just port" Fossil to 9front (if it was all that easy, why was it discarded entirely?) and I don't have the hardware to migrate the data to a different disk representation. In fact, I can't even justify attempting to migrate my setup to P9P under Linux (or NetBSD, which is my preferred POSIX flavour) where Fossil may be better supported than under 9front. And if the question "why don't you
> just let 9legacy die?" has any validity, then Windows or Linux could be said to justify the analogous "why don't you just let 9front die?"
> 
> Hiro, if there was no conflict, in the sense of an hostile attitude, then Moodly would not have accused me of being lazy in a public forum. Nor would you consider it good manners in the same forum to demand that people should follow some "true way" as you suggest. That's where Vic's attitude is so much less antagonistic than your own. And I have believed since I first met Cinap in Greece in 2008 that neither he nor his development colleagues share your attitude. You may br factually right, but
> that is really not enough.
> 

My intention was to not call you lazy, I was trying to communicate that if the system is not doing what you want and you would like someone else to fix
that for you there are better ways of doing so then being snide about the interoperability between 9front and 9legacy. Had the conversation been
"I need help doing this with 9front" without the finger pointing I would have been happy to sit down and point you in the right direction without retorting.

Fossil was removed long before my time in 9front, it was removed because it kept eating people's data and the maintainers at the time did not want to deal
with it when we have perfectly good alternatives. So what Charles says is right on the money. I agree that for your specific usecase (and anyone else
migrating from 9legacy) this is less than ideal. As kvik and qwx both mentioned there are places where you can find find a "ready to go" fossil for
use with 9front, please try that and come back to us with specific questions. However I am telling you now that your request for fossil to be included
again just because it helps you out personally is not going to convince anyone. The system (and us as part of its maintainers) do not exist
to service you individually, sorry. We've pointed you in the right direction and your response of "that's over my head so I wont even try" is frustrating.
If you have specific questions of how to get started with things, or issues we can likely advise.

I will add that 9front does still support p9sk1, that code was not removed from the system.
If you are using 9front as the auth server you need to pass an additional flag to authsrv(6) to allow
it to respond to p9sk1 queries. I don't know why your setup is not working as is, but I don't have any
interest in standing up a similar environment in attempts to reproduce the issue.

Good luck


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