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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 1209b710-0ef0-11ef-a0db-d85afe8b7b06 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UZGUyY2EyYWRkYTM4M2EzYS1NZTgwMDI1MGI5YmJhZTZmZmY2Y2Ew?= =?UTF-8?B?YzZmPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Me800250b9bbae6fff6ca0c6f:1:-mxLVVvJVU00VCjBy6ob0Ffc9fQ3DC5GqiMKpjcJMdI For the sake of time I am going to just reply here after reading all of the existing thread On 5/10/24 03:17, Lucio De Re wrote: >> why don't you just let 9legacy die? >=20 > You are not paying attention: I have a multi-gigabyte commitment to Fossi= l. I am not convinced *I* could "just port" Fossil to 9front (if it was all= that easy, why was it discarded entirely?) and I don't have the hardware t= o migrate the data to a different disk representation. In fact, I can't eve= n justify attempting to migrate my setup to P9P under Linux (or NetBSD, whi= ch is my preferred POSIX flavour) where Fossil may be better supported than= under 9front. And if the question "why don't you > just let 9legacy die?" has any validity, then Windows or Linux could be s= aid to justify the=C2=A0analogous=C2=A0"why don't you just let 9front die?" >=20 > Hiro, if there was no conflict, in the sense of an hostile attitude, then= Moodly would not have accused me of being lazy in a public forum. Nor woul= d you consider it good manners in the same forum to demand that people shou= ld follow some "true way" as you suggest. That's where Vic's attitude is so= much less antagonistic than your own. And I have believed since I first me= t Cinap in Greece in 2008 that neither he nor his development colleagues sh= are your attitude. You may br factually=C2=A0right, but > that is really not enough. >=20 My intention was to not call you lazy, I was trying to communicate that if = the system is not doing what you want and you would like someone else to fix that for you there are better ways of doing so then being snide about the i= nteroperability between 9front and 9legacy. Had the conversation been "I need help doing this with 9front" without the finger pointing I would ha= ve been happy to sit down and point you in the right direction without reto= rting. Fossil was removed long before my time in 9front, it was removed because it= kept eating people's data and the maintainers at the time did not want to = deal with it when we have perfectly good alternatives. So what Charles says is r= ight on the money. I agree that for your specific usecase (and anyone else migrating from 9legacy) this is less than ideal. As kvik and qwx both menti= oned there are places where you can find find a "ready to go" fossil for use with 9front, please try that and come back to us with specific question= s. However I am telling you now that your request for fossil to be included again just because it helps you out personally is not going to convince any= one. The system (and us as part of its maintainers) do not exist to service you individually, sorry. We've pointed you in the right directio= n and your response of "that's over my head so I wont even try" is frustrat= ing. If you have specific questions of how to get started with things, or issues= we can likely advise. I will add that 9front does still support p9sk1, that code was not removed = from the system. If you are using 9front as the auth server you need to pass an additional f= lag to authsrv(6) to allow it to respond to p9sk1 queries. I don't know why your setup is not working = as is, but I don't have any interest in standing up a similar environment in attempts to reproduce the = issue. Good luck ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tde2ca2adda383a3a-Me8002= 50b9bbae6fff6ca0c6f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription