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From: Sape Mullender <sape@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] venti
Date: Fri,  9 Jan 2009 13:38:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b54d94454af5d26bf38246d1edcb1052@plan9.cs.bell-labs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b146f7b71d1aa58ff06d8d63c3b331b4@hamnavoe.com>

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Yes, but even if one venti always leaves the store in a consistent
state, running two may still cause them to wite differemt things to
the same place on disk and this is likely to result in havoc.

	Sape

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From: Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] venti
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:18:35 +0000
Message-ID: <b146f7b71d1aa58ff06d8d63c3b331b4@hamnavoe.com>

> Hmm.  Running two ventis on the same data is, of course, bad.  It's also
> something I haven't seen happen before.

I think it may have happened to me.  Recently I had a "missing score" error
when I was looking for something in my dump fs.  To assess the damage I did
a 'venti/copy -r' to a spare server, which told me 13 pointers had to be
rewritten.

I do sometimes get errors like this from my fossil server:
	could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds
	blistAlloc: called on clean block
but I've been assuming they are benign.  Am I wrong?

My understanding of fossil is that venti writes are ordered such that
the store should not be left in an inconsistent state even after a
sudden shutdown.  If that's the case, I'm guessing the most likely
cause of corruption was a careless experiment with venti when there
was already one running.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-09 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-09  8:20 Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2009-01-09  9:44 ` Sape Mullender
2009-01-09 12:18   ` Richard Miller
2009-01-09 12:38     ` Sape Mullender [this message]
2009-01-09 13:39     ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-09 20:11   ` Dave Eckhardt
2009-01-09 20:27     ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-09 22:18       ` Dave Eckhardt
2009-01-09 22:27         ` erik quanstrom
2009-01-09 20:34     ` Steve Simon
2009-01-09 21:08     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-04  1:51 Russ Cox
2007-10-07 20:51 ` Steve Simon
2007-07-03  4:58 [9fans] Venti Lucio De Re
2007-03-30 16:32 [9fans] venti Steve Simon
2003-02-06  1:11 Kenji Arisawa
2003-02-06  1:21 ` Russ Cox
2002-11-29 18:59 Russ Cox
2002-11-29 18:27 Russ Cox
2002-06-13 20:58 [9fans] bug or a feature? Dan Cross
2002-06-13 21:34 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2002-06-13 22:51   ` [9fans] venti Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2002-06-14  2:19     ` Sean Quinlan
2002-06-14  5:05       ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
2002-01-30 20:35 George Michaelson
     [not found] <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2002-01-30  5:52 ` rob pike
2002-01-30  6:23   ` George Michaelson
2002-01-30  8:07   ` paurea
2002-01-30 11:17   ` Boyd Roberts

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