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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] ideas for helpful system io functions
Date: Sat,  5 Dec 2009 15:03:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b90c37eafd11c1b9d3fdec001a809f07@ladd.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<20091205194741.0697D5B76@mail.bitblocks.com>>

> The OS support I am talking about:
> a) the fork behavior on an open file should be available
>    *without* forking.  dup() doesn't cut it (both fds share
>    the same offset on the underlying file). I'd call the new
>    syscall fdfork().  That is, if I do
>
>        int newfd = fdfork(oldfd);
>
>    reading N bytes each from newfd and oldfd will return
>    identical data.

i can't think of a way to do this correctly.  buffering in the
kernel would only work if each process issued exactly the
same set of reads.  there is no requirement that the data
from 2 reads of 100 bytes each be the same as the data
return with 1 200 byte read.

before you bother with "but that's a wierd case", remember
that the success of unix and plan 9 has been built on the
fact that there aren't syscalls that fail in "wierd" cases.

- erik



       reply	other threads:[~2009-12-05 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<20091205194741.0697D5B76@mail.bitblocks.com>
2009-12-05 20:03 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2009-12-05 20:24   ` Bakul Shah
     [not found] <<8ccc8ba40912070814o2f2c7eb9s5887a31810eab12e@mail.gmail.com>
2009-12-07 16:24 ` erik quanstrom
2009-12-07 16:48   ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-12-07 14:41 Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-12-07 15:11 ` roger peppe
     [not found] <<20091207120652.GB16320@knaagkever.ueber.net>
2009-12-07 12:19 ` erik quanstrom
     [not found] <<20091205202420.855AD5B77@mail.bitblocks.com>
2009-12-05 20:27 ` erik quanstrom
2009-12-05 20:59   ` Bakul Shah
2009-12-06  7:45     ` Sam Watkins
2009-12-05 20:30 ` erik quanstrom
     [not found] <<20091205081032.GJ8759@nipl.net>
2009-12-05 13:51 ` erik quanstrom
     [not found] <<alpine.BSF.2.00.0912042210290.81688@legolas.yyc.orthanc.ca>
2009-12-05 13:26 ` erik quanstrom
2009-12-05 14:22   ` Sam Watkins
2009-12-05 17:47     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-12-05 17:56       ` Skip Tavakkolian
     [not found] <<alpine.BSF.2.00.0912042029370.66255@legolas.yyc.orthanc.ca>
2009-12-05  4:47 ` erik quanstrom
2009-12-05  5:09   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2009-12-05  5:11     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2009-12-05  8:10   ` Sam Watkins
2009-12-05 11:44     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-12-05 16:32       ` ron minnich
2009-12-05 17:01         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-12-05 17:09           ` ron minnich
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-05  3:17 Sam Watkins
2009-12-05  3:36 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2009-12-05  3:56   ` Sam Watkins
2009-12-05  4:03     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2009-12-05 18:16 ` Tim Newsham
2009-12-05 18:24   ` Tim Newsham
2009-12-05 19:47     ` Bakul Shah
2009-12-07 12:24       ` roger peppe
2009-12-07 12:32         ` Charles Forsyth
2009-12-07 12:35           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-12-07 13:42             ` Charles Forsyth
2009-12-07 16:10             ` erik quanstrom
2009-12-07 16:14               ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-12-07 14:13         ` Sam Watkins
2009-12-07 14:36           ` roger peppe
2009-12-07 19:11             ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2009-12-07 21:03               ` roger peppe
2009-12-08 12:51           ` matt
2009-12-07 12:06     ` Mechiel Lukkien
2009-12-07 12:31       ` roger peppe
2010-01-05 13:48     ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-01-05 15:53       ` Steve Simon

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