Ken left on his own 6 months ahead of the first incentive (to leave) offer last year. He wasn't downsized, though he seems to have lost a bit of weight since. If he'ld decided to stay, he would have been safe till the heat death of the company. He left because he wasn't having fun any more and wanted to do something different. Lucent has been very protective of research despite the `troubles'. While the company shed over 2/3 of its employees, our center is only about 15% smaller than its largest size.