From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: From: presotto@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ddc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-sjwtegixxfwmlndisiyymmchpa" Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:34:42 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 188c5a28-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-sjwtegixxfwmlndisiyymmchpa Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken left on his own 6 months ahead of the first incentive (to leave) offer last year. He wasn't downsized, though he seems to have lost a bit of weight since. If he'ld decided to stay, he would have been safe till the heat death of the company. He left because he wasn't having fun any more and wanted to do something different. Lucent has been very protective of research despite the `troubles'. While the company shed over 2/3 of its employees, our center is only about 15% smaller than its largest size. --upas-sjwtegixxfwmlndisiyymmchpa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Nov 7 14:56:16 EST 2002 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Nov 7 14:56:15 EST 2002 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4FFE19A0B; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:56:07 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from tractor.meridian.wednet.edu (tractor.meridian.wednet.edu [164.116.190.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 40BF41999B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:55:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from tractor.meridian.wednet.edu [164.116.190.5] by tractor.meridian.wednet.edu (SMTPD32-6.06) id A2006630030; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:41:52 -0800 Received: FROM nas.com BY tractor.meridian.wednet.edu ; Thu Nov 07 11:41:51 2002 -0800 Message-ID: <3DCAC534.7000507@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2a) Gecko/20020910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ddc References: <83416f2a277cf262db122a5846f1ed49@plan9.bell-labs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:55:32 -0800 presotto@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > Lucent's woes has caused many researchers to leave. Our lab is > showing the strain and we've just been told that we're going to > get hit with the next wave of firings. In the last few years > we've lost Ken Thompson, Phil Winterbottom, Sean Dorward, and > just recently Sean Quinlan, and Rob Pike. I knew things weren't peachy at the Labs, but I didn't realize they were abysmal. Plus, what a great way to bolster investor confidence: "Lucent Technologies: We 'downsized' a National Medal of Technology winner." So if I win the lottery tonight, any idea of the going price for the Computing Sciences Research Center? (Maybe $1M in office space and gear, and another $1.5M per employee in exchange for showing up at work when it suits them? Bring your own healthcare....) -Jack P.S. I'd hire your glassblower, too. I think he's one of five people in the nation blowing custom glass for experiments. --upas-sjwtegixxfwmlndisiyymmchpa--