I'm sorry if in any of my previous mails I did sound like `Rob did it wrong' or something like that. I didn't mean that at all, and apologize if that was what I actually wrote. I think we all now agree that -> translating in the mount driver is a bad idea. -> translating in the servers might work, but we're not sure. -> %q is a good thing, but, -> ls et al shouldn't use %q (unless other programs change their conventions to read file names and digest the quotes properly). I'm sorry my diff triggered this, but in any case I think we all are trying to find a way, and more discussions like this will probably follow. thanks you all; this has been instructive, at least for me.