* [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman @ 2000-07-02 16:35 Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros 2000-07-02 16:27 ` Jim Choate ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros @ 2000-07-02 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 501 bytes --] Hi, Linux Today has published today an article by Richard Stallman where he explains "the problems" of the license of Plan 9 3rd ed: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-07-02-007-04-OP-LF-SW Best regards, -- Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros | email: pheras@acm.org Grupo de Sistemas y Comunicaciones (GSyC) | tlf: (+34)-91-664-74-68 Dpto. Ciencias Experimentales e Ingeniería Universidad Rey Juan Carlos--ESCET. C/ Tulipan s/n.Mostoles E-28933 Spain ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman 2000-07-02 16:35 [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros @ 2000-07-02 16:27 ` Jim Choate 2000-07-02 19:32 ` andrey mirtchovski ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Jim Choate @ 2000-07-02 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans I'm all of a sudden getting echo's..... ____________________________________________________________________ Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. W. Shakespeare The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman 2000-07-02 16:35 [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros 2000-07-02 16:27 ` Jim Choate @ 2000-07-02 19:32 ` andrey mirtchovski 2000-07-02 23:36 ` Boyd Roberts 2000-07-04 8:32 ` Conway Yee 3 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: andrey mirtchovski @ 2000-07-02 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans A day will come, when our children (or children's children, depending on age) will be arguing about the license covering the new toy we've just bought them, instead of playing with it... Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros wrote: > Hi, > > Linux Today has published today an article by Richard Stallman where > he explains "the problems" of the license of Plan 9 3rd ed > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman 2000-07-02 16:35 [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros 2000-07-02 16:27 ` Jim Choate 2000-07-02 19:32 ` andrey mirtchovski @ 2000-07-02 23:36 ` Boyd Roberts 2000-07-03 0:56 ` Alexander Viro 2000-07-04 8:32 ` Conway Yee 3 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Boyd Roberts @ 2000-07-02 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros wrote: > > Hi, > > Linux Today has published today an article by Richard Stallman where > he explains "the problems" of the license of Plan 9 3rd ed: > > http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-07-02-007-04-OP-LF-SW > stallman should a) take a bath, b) get a grip and c) stop writing bullshit that he thinks is code. -- But I doubt if our present system [U.S. Army] will produce such an individual. They are too: _abrasive_, opinionated, undiplomatic, nonconformist, and effective. -- Colonel David H. Hackworth (U.S. Army, Ret.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman 2000-07-02 23:36 ` Boyd Roberts @ 2000-07-03 0:56 ` Alexander Viro 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Alexander Viro @ 2000-07-03 0:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Boyd Roberts; +Cc: 9fans On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Boyd Roberts wrote: > Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Linux Today has published today an article by Richard Stallman where > > he explains "the problems" of the license of Plan 9 3rd ed: > > > > http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-07-02-007-04-OP-LF-SW > > > > stallman should a) take a bath, b) get a grip and c) stop writing > bullshit that he thinks is code. You mean he actually writes something these days? AFAICS he went 100% PHB... He has one point, though - part regarding the intellectual property actions, nice as it is, is abusable. And that has nothing to GPL, indeed - sufficiently malicious and smart asshole can use that clause to cause a lot of grief to any contributor. Doesn't have to be very smart, actually - AFAICS "contribution" != "contribution accepted into the official tree", so quality of code is not an issue and recipe is out there... s/any/& Plan 9-related/ would be one of the ways to close that hole, but anyway, hole is actually there. (For those who didn't bother to read the text in question, scenario basically boils down to the following: $EVIL_ASSHOLE becomes a contributor, picks a $VICTIM_CONTRIBUTOR and starts doing nasty things to any code written by $VICTIM_CONTRIBUTOR, quite possibly under different license, containing trade secrets, whatever. Oops...) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman 2000-07-02 16:35 [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman Pedro de-las-Heras-Quiros ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2000-07-02 23:36 ` Boyd Roberts @ 2000-07-04 8:32 ` Conway Yee 2000-07-05 8:31 ` John Dyson 3 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Conway Yee @ 2000-07-04 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans After reading RMS's arguments, I come to the conclusion that if this points are what RMS have to worry about, then Plan 9 is indeed free software. Conway Yee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] The problems of the Plan 9 license, by Richard Stallman 2000-07-04 8:32 ` Conway Yee @ 2000-07-05 8:31 ` John Dyson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: John Dyson @ 2000-07-05 8:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Conway Yee wrote: > > After reading RMS's arguments, I come to the conclusion that if this > points are what RMS have to worry about, then Plan 9 is indeed free > software. > I STRONGLY suggest avoiding license debates. Ignore the rantings, and continue with the license that you see fit!!! John ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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