From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:07:41 +0000 From: kalaracey@gmail.com Message-ID: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error "rc: #d/0: Topicbox-Message-UUID: a3a81b68-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I'm in /sys/src/9/pc and I type `mk CONF=9pcdisk` and rc gives me the error "rc: #d/0: token '=': syntax error". Why is this? Just doing mk works fine (I think). Thanks! Plan9 looks very cool... just finished reading through intro (all of it). From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Federico Benavento In-Reply-To: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:16:16 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <02867E4A-A52A-4C23-B5B0-44635B5FB010@gmail.com> References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error "rc: #d/0: Topicbox-Message-UUID: a44ee2c2-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 you're using backquotes, why? that would be `{mk CONF=3D9pcdisk} in rc's syntax. now to compile that kernel the syntax is: % mk 'CONF=3Dpcdisk' now are you sure you want a pcdisk?=20 On Jul 19, 2012, at 6:07 AM, kalaracey@gmail.com wrote: > I'm in /sys/src/9/pc and I type >=20 > `mk CONF=3D9pcdisk` >=20 > and rc gives me the error "rc: #d/0: token '=3D': syntax error". >=20 > Why is this? Just doing mk works fine (I think). >=20 > Thanks! Plan9 looks very cool... just finished reading through intro = (all of it). >=20 --- Federico G. Benavento benavento@gmail.com From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:17:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174757f6baa65404c52b40a6 Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error "rc: #d/0: Topicbox-Message-UUID: a4557f9c-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0015174757f6baa65404c52b40a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 9pcdisk is the output file, not the configuration file. Also you need to quote the = because it is special to rc (assignment). Try mk 'CONF=pcdisk' On 19 July 2012 10:07, wrote: > > `mk CONF=9pcdisk` --0015174757f6baa65404c52b40a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 9pcdisk is the output file, not the configuration file. Also you need to qu= ote the =3D because it is special to rc (assignment).
Try
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 mk 'CONF=3Dpcdisk'

On = 19 July 2012 10:07, <kalaracey@gmail.com> wrote:

`mk CONF=3D9pcdisk`

--0015174757f6baa65404c52b40a6-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:20:56 +0200 From: David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: <20120719112056.03d916c5@wks-ddc.exosec.local> In-Reply-To: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error "rc: #d/0: Topicbox-Message-UUID: a45a81d6-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 The = character have a special meaning for the rc shell and should be escaped. Type this instead: % mk CONF'='9pcdisk -- David du Colombier From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:25:42 +0000 From: Kyle Laracey Message-ID: <28c7e261-7f27-4b9d-8508-34bc9f429f19@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com>, <02867E4A-A52A-4C23-B5B0-44635B5FB010@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a46101e6-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:16:16 AM UTC-4, Federico Benavento wrote: > you're using backquotes, why? that would be `{mk CONF=9pcdisk} in rc's > syntax. > > now to compile that kernel the syntax is: > % mk 'CONF=pcdisk' > > now are you sure you want a pcdisk? > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 6:07 AM, kalaracey@gmail.com wrote: > > > I'm in /sys/src/9/pc and I type > > > > `mk CONF=9pcdisk` > > > > and rc gives me the error "rc: #d/0: token '=': syntax error". > > > > Why is this? Just doing mk works fine (I think). > > > > Thanks! Plan9 looks very cool... just finished reading through intro (all of it). > > > > --- > Federico G. Benavento > benavento@gmail.com Sorry; I was just using backquotes to quote it here. Literally, I just typed mk CONF=9pcdisk. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:25:53 +0000 From: Kyle Laracey Message-ID: <96703eac-fc2e-4bee-8c0f-a7c5a3ff03d8@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com>, Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a466e412-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:17:47 AM UTC-4, Charles Forsyth wrote: > 9pcdisk is the output file, not the configuration file. Also you need to = quote the =3D because it is special to rc (assignment). > Try > =A0 =A0 mk 'CONF=3Dpcdisk' >=20 >=20 > On 19 July 2012 10:07, <kalaracey@gmail.com> wrote: >=20 >
>=20 > `mk CONF=3D9pcdisk`
> Oh 9pcdisk is the OUTPUT file! That's odd... I'm following the instructions= for compiling in this (http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.pdf) guide to the plan = 9 3ed source code, and on pg 24, it says to do exactly that, mk CONF=3D9pcd= isk. I tried mk 'CONF=3Dpcdisk' and it works. Thanks. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <96703eac-fc2e-4bee-8c0f-a7c5a3ff03d8@googlegroups.com> References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> <96703eac-fc2e-4bee-8c0f-a7c5a3ff03d8@googlegroups.com> From: John Floren Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:59:15 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a46e7538-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Kyle Laracey wrote: > On Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:17:47 AM UTC-4, Charles Forsyth wrote: >> 9pcdisk is the output file, not the configuration file. Also you need to= quote the =3D because it is special to rc (assignment). >> Try >> mk 'CONF=3Dpcdisk' >> >> >> On 19 July 2012 10:07, <kalaracey@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>
>> >> `mk CONF=3D9pcdisk`
>> > > Oh 9pcdisk is the OUTPUT file! That's odd... I'm following the instructio= ns for compiling in this (http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.pdf) guide to the pla= n 9 3ed source code, and on pg 24, it says to do exactly that, mk CONF=3D9p= cdisk. I tried mk 'CONF=3Dpcdisk' and it works. Thanks. > But as Federico mentioned, you might not want pcdisk--that's for running with a kfs root, which isn't officially supported any more. If you were looking at the 3e guide, that might explain it. These days, for a terminal, you probably want pcf (pc + fossil). john From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: erik quanstrom Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:21:04 -0400 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> <96703eac-fc2e-4bee-8c0f-a7c5a3ff03d8@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a473cdc6-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > But as Federico mentioned, you might not want pcdisk--that's for > running with a kfs root, which isn't officially supported any more. If > you were looking at the 3e guide, that might explain it. These days, > for a terminal, you probably want pcf (pc + fossil). for a terminal, ideally one would be booting off a file server, and have no local storage. but local storage can't be avoided, as i see it, on a standalone terminal, simple, speedy, safe would trump fs features. so kfs can't just be excluded. your tradeoffs may vary. :-) - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> <96703eac-fc2e-4bee-8c0f-a7c5a3ff03d8@googlegroups.com> From: John Floren Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:48:06 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a479e44a-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> But as Federico mentioned, you might not want pcdisk--that's for >> running with a kfs root, which isn't officially supported any more. If >> you were looking at the 3e guide, that might explain it. These days, >> for a terminal, you probably want pcf (pc + fossil). > > for a terminal, ideally one would be booting off a file server, > and have no local storage. > > but local storage can't be avoided, > as i see it, on a standalone terminal, simple, speedy, safe > would trump fs features. so kfs can't just be excluded. > > your tradeoffs may vary. :-) > > - erik > There's certainly reasons for using kfs, but for a new user I'd probably recommend fossil simply because the documentation and most 9fans will assume you're using fossil. But yeah, *best* option is to netboot a 9pc kernel, it's lovely to just hit the power button when you're done working. John From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:32:12 +0000 From: Kyle Laracey Message-ID: <0e3439c1-dcf2-49e8-bbd1-db0605edcc70@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a48a975e-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:48:06 PM UTC-4, John Floren wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: > >> But as Federico mentioned, you might not want pcdisk--that's for > >> running with a kfs root, which isn't officially supported any more. If > >> you were looking at the 3e guide, that might explain it. These days, > >> for a terminal, you probably want pcf (pc + fossil). > > > > for a terminal, ideally one would be booting off a file server, > > and have no local storage. > > > > but local storage can't be avoided, > > as i see it, on a standalone terminal, simple, speedy, safe > > would trump fs features. so kfs can't just be excluded. > > > > your tradeoffs may vary. :-) > > > > - erik > > > > There's certainly reasons for using kfs, but for a new user I'd > probably recommend fossil simply because the documentation and most > 9fans will assume you're using fossil. > > But yeah, *best* option is to netboot a 9pc kernel, it's lovely to > just hit the power button when you're done working. > > > John Wow so do you guys actually netbook Plan9? Where's the central server? where you work / university or something? Or do you just have it set up at your homes? Sounds pretty cool... From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0e3439c1-dcf2-49e8-bbd1-db0605edcc70@googlegroups.com> References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> <0e3439c1-dcf2-49e8-bbd1-db0605edcc70@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:14:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a490285e-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I'm currently traveling but I simply install it on all PCs I can find. If people ask me where their data is I start catclock and pretend I thought plan9 was a game. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mveety@gmail.com To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:29:30 -0400 Message-ID: <2452258.oMu2zgeCdk@as-laptop> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.4 (Linux/3.4.5-1-ARCH; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <0e3439c1-dcf2-49e8-bbd1-db0605edcc70@googlegroups.com> References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> <0e3439c1-dcf2-49e8-bbd1-db0605edcc70@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a495c21e-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Monday 23 July 2012 08:32:12 Kyle Laracey wrote: > On Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:48:06 PM UTC-4, John Floren wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM, erik quanstrom > > <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: >> But as Federico mentioned, > > you might not want pcdisk--that's for >> running with a kfs > > root, which isn't officially supported any more. If >> you were > > looking at the 3e guide, that might explain it. These days, >> for > > a terminal, you probably want pcf (pc + fossil). > > > > > > for a terminal, ideally one would be booting off a file server, > > > and have no local storage. > > > > > > but local storage can't be avoided, > > > as i see it, on a standalone terminal, simple, speedy, safe > > > would trump fs features. so kfs can't just be excluded. > > > > > > your tradeoffs may vary. :-) > > > > > > - erik > > > > > > > There's certainly reasons for using kfs, but for a new user I'd > > probably recommend fossil simply because the documentation and most > > 9fans will assume you're using fossil. > > > > But yeah, *best* option is to netboot a 9pc kernel, it's lovely to > > just hit the power button when you're done working. > > > > > > John > > Wow so do you guys actually netbook Plan9? Where's the central > server? where you work / university or something? Or do you just > have it set up at your homes? Sounds pretty cool... My fs/auth server is at my house, and I netboot 9vx off of it when I need to get real work done. There used to be a server at RIT that you could do the same thing at, but it doesn't seem to be online anymore. -- Veety From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthew Veety To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:32:13 -0400 Message-ID: <1431379.C5KhtzZRf2@as-laptop> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.4 (Linux/3.4.5-1-ARCH; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> <0e3439c1-dcf2-49e8-bbd1-db0605edcc70@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a49b09b8-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Monday 23 July 2012 13:14:11 hiro wrote: > I'm currently traveling but I simply install it on all PCs I can find. > If people ask me where their data is I start catclock and pretend I > thought plan9 was a game. Catclock isn't a game? I always thought that catclock was the best mmorpg/fps/rts game ever. -- Veety From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0e3439c1-dcf2-49e8-bbd1-db0605edcc70@googlegroups.com> References: <1f5637de-024f-48d6-97c7-aba6cf870a7c@googlegroups.com> <0e3439c1-dcf2-49e8-bbd1-db0605edcc70@googlegroups.com> From: John Floren Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:42:46 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [9fans] Can't "mk CONF=9pcdisk" --> gives error Topicbox-Message-UUID: a49ff0c2-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Kyle Laracey wrote: > On Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:48:06 PM UTC-4, John Floren wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM, erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net> wrote: >> >> But as Federico mentioned, you might not want pcdisk--that's for >> >> running with a kfs root, which isn't officially supported any more. If >> >> you were looking at the 3e guide, that might explain it. These days, >> >> for a terminal, you probably want pcf (pc + fossil). >> > >> > for a terminal, ideally one would be booting off a file server, >> > and have no local storage. >> > >> > but local storage can't be avoided, >> > as i see it, on a standalone terminal, simple, speedy, safe >> > would trump fs features. so kfs can't just be excluded. >> > >> > your tradeoffs may vary. :-) >> > >> > - erik >> > >> >> There's certainly reasons for using kfs, but for a new user I'd >> probably recommend fossil simply because the documentation and most >> 9fans will assume you're using fossil. >> >> But yeah, *best* option is to netboot a 9pc kernel, it's lovely to >> just hit the power button when you're done working. >> >> >> John > > Wow so do you guys actually netbook Plan9? Where's the central > server? where you work / university or something? Or do you just > have it set up at your homes? Sounds pretty cool... > Here at work, we've got a cpu/auth/file server running fossil and venti off a Coraid storage appliance, sitting in the machine room. We netboot some terminals and a 32-core test server from it. At home, I've got a cpu/auth/file server running on an old Thinkpad, but I generally just drawterm in since 1. it's a hassle to plug yourself into the wired network and 2. I rarely have a netbootable terminal at home. Netbooting is great, though. You can also cheat and install Plan 9 on the disk, but then specify that root is from a remote server, meaning your kernel will boot from the hard drive but after bootup it's basically idle. John