From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: quanstro@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:40:56 -0500 Subject: [9fans] 9vx instability In-Reply-To: References: <82af4df383dbdfc93944531f9ce11494@gmx.de> <0f3ffa2580853f43a31188a801994e3c@brasstown.quanstro.net> Message-ID: Topicbox-Message-UUID: 47a4af3e-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > 9front seems to me to define itself as: having fun while getting > useful stuff done. With an emphasis in *fun* and in not taking > anything too seriously, while one the technical side favoring > simplicity and things that work. > > This might not be exactly the same original Plan 9 values, but seems > close enough. Of course in 9front there is also an element of trolling > and poking fun at itself and anything else, and I will be happy if > cat-v.org takes the blame for that. > > > ?to be honest, it's one of the reasons i've stopped following 9front. > > > > to paraphrase a saying in mathematics, it's not enough to be good > > you must also be humble. ?why do you think dennis' ideas took > > over? > > I think an important form of humility is not taking yourself too > seriously. For an example of this see Dennis' Anti-Foreword to The > UNIX-HATERS Handbook: http://simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf > > 9front can't claim to reach such exquisite levels of "seriousness", > but it tries. > > I suspect one of the reasons why 9front exists is because some people > in the Plan 9 community this days seem to take themselves and the > whole project a bit too seriously. > > Which is kind of weird for a project called after an Ed Wood film. uriel, what you say would make sense if the "jokes" didn't include putting mein kampf in /lib. - erik