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From: cinap_lenrek@gmx.de
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] why not Lvx for Plan 9?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:25:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1e8ba590a5a3e67c79a8009133004fe@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13426df10807100936l14a08d45n714428b086897d65@mail.gmail.com>

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Ok, here is the thing...

Here are 2 versions of linux libc tls and notls. (Current linux distries just
ship with the tls version i think, but here may be exceptions)

TLS is a libpthread thing that is heavily wired together with libc
on linux. (just do an ldd on something like ls)

TLS uses the two free segment registers %FS and %GS as a way for a thread
to access its thread local storage area. (the parent allocates some memory
and sets up an segment descriptor that points/translates to this memory
(it makes set_thread_area() syscall todo this)

to implement this syscall, i needed a way to change entries in the
global descriptor table in the kernel. here is some experimental
driver (/dev/tls) but i'm not sure if its correct. also it buys you not very mutch
to have it yet, because the new pthread library also needs a futex implementation
to be usefull. the old notls libc works without that syscall and doesnt need
any modification to the plan9 kernel.

but... i think in the near future TLS support is important and for that i
need some kernel support to change segment descriptors on a process
basis.

If i understand vx correctly, it also needs a way to change segment
descriptors and even needs to be able to change its %DS, %CS, %SS registers
to it.

cinap

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From: "ron minnich" <rminnich@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] why not Lvx for Plan 9?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:36:22 -0700
Message-ID: <13426df10807100936l14a08d45n714428b086897d65@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net> wrote:
>> speaking of which, did Cinap's  fixes for the gs segment make it in so
>> we have thread local storage a la linux now?
>
>
> or did you mean in linuxemu?

yes. linuxemu needed a kernel change IIRC and I was wondering if that was in.
ron

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-08 15:28 kokamoto
2008-07-08 15:58 ` David Leimbach
2008-07-08 16:04   ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-08 16:33     ` ron minnich
2008-07-08 16:47       ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-09  4:33         ` LiteStar numnums
2008-07-08 17:46     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-08 17:49       ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-08 18:38         ` a
2008-07-08 19:01           ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-08 19:46             ` a
2008-07-08 20:03         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-08 20:15           ` William Josephson
2008-07-08 20:38             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-08 21:25             ` ron minnich
2008-07-08 22:16               ` Steve Simon
2008-07-08 22:32                 ` David du Colombier
2008-07-09  0:01                   ` don bailey
2008-07-09  0:13                     ` ron minnich
2008-07-09  3:17                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-07-09  3:43                         ` ron minnich
2008-07-09  3:45                           ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-09  4:44                           ` David Leimbach
2008-07-08 18:50     ` David Leimbach
2008-07-08 17:19 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-07-10 12:58   ` matt
2008-07-10 13:47     ` Russ Cox
2008-07-10 14:03       ` erik quanstrom
     [not found]         ` <B94154D0-97B5-4FFF-A140-E47D95FC1307@flyingwalrus.net>
2008-07-12 15:59           ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-10 15:18       ` ron minnich
2008-07-10 16:33         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-10 16:36           ` ron minnich
2008-07-10 19:25             ` cinap_lenrek [this message]
2008-07-10 19:50               ` ron minnich
2008-07-11  9:10                 ` Kernel Panic
2008-07-11 16:12                   ` ron minnich
2008-07-10 14:01     ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-08 17:27 ` Russ Cox
2008-07-08 17:39   ` a

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