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Mon, 5 Apr 2021 07:43:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.5.0-alpha0-273-g8500d2492d-fm-20210323.002-g8500d249 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20210403154726.pr6e7ya7y2j2gyh4@azoth.pixelheresy.com> References: <16172946980.cd0F9b.53019@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <20210403154726.pr6e7ya7y2j2gyh4@azoth.pixelheresy.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 12:43:27 +0100 From: "Ethan Gardener" To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 374417f4-9604-11eb-9506-a40b7aa1834e Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UYzQ3MmU0YTBjMGI2ZjA4NC1NNmRhYWU4MjBjNDE1NTU0OWM2NWM1?= =?UTF-8?B?NzA5Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M6daae820c4155549c65c5709:1:xDX5tVEvSmDY4DJsIHOB1o42BWVOfSnAc2bzYlFyfbU On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Keith Gibbs wrote: > It's almost as if the accusations that 9front in some way undermines the = core > philosophies of Plan 9 are not motivated by facts,=20 There was a lot of grumpiness around when that accusation got started. > On 21/04/03 05:39PM, hiro wrote: > > btw everybody, remember how labs people added a syscall just for go? > > and how that breaks compatibility for everybody? > > 9front didn't like it. but I guess we prefer to stay as compatible as > > feasible in addition to trying to prevent scenarios like these forced > > upon us (by labs, ironic eh?) Yep. I might be able to understand that change, but less so the later break= ing change to 9p auth. There was no reason for it at all; p9any already all= ows different cyphers. Thankfully, it was easy to integrate without breakin= g dpi9k, but after all the care we'd taken to preserve 9p, I found it demor= alizing. (I have this great idea for integrating file move into 9p, but "no= , we do not break 9p!") And I got the impression that the 9p change was req= uested by the very people who accused 9front the most, but I wasn't really = paying attention by then so I might very well be wrong about that. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc472e4a0c0b6f084-M6daae= 820c4155549c65c5709 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription