From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] license From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-rdyrajjfdgvxsgskfduosowcih" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:30:08 +0900 Topicbox-Message-UUID: e8cc2638-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-rdyrajjfdgvxsgskfduosowcih Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I suppose bringing up the subject of licence terms surrounding Alef >won't win me any friends, either :-) Well, if we have no graphic library for Alef, it's not so attracting to me anymore. Thread and draw + control libraries can work now for it. :-) Kenji --upas-rdyrajjfdgvxsgskfduosowcih Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp ([192.168.1.3]) by diabase; Mon Sep 9 23:49:51 JST 2002 Received: from elmo.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (elmo.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.103.2]) by granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08750 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:29:37 +0900 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by elmo.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-02040219) with ESMTP id XAA14690 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:48:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE1EA1998C; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 996F41998C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g89ElEx8018280 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:47:16 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g89ElDpU018279 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:47:13 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] license Message-ID: <20020909164708.C12632@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from Eric Grosse on Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 09:06:49AM -0400 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:47:08 +0200 On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 09:06:49AM -0400, Eric Grosse wrote: > The license change happened while a number of us were out of town > and we're working to get it reconsidered. Please give us a few > more days to try to straighten this out. > Aren't we in a situation where the licence ('scuse the spelling) is trying to address conflicting objectives? I don't for one moment believe that the users community should dictate the terms of the licence, but perhaps we can isolate portions of the code that Lucent believes ought to be protected and release as much as possible with only OSI-style restrictions. And on that score, I have cartographic (maps, I suppose) that were released under the 2nd Edition licence. Was it licencing or pure practicality that kept the data from being released under 3ed or 4ed? I suppose bringing up the subject of licence terms surrounding Alef won't win me any friends, either :-) ++L --upas-rdyrajjfdgvxsgskfduosowcih--