From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f13df6290acb20a330e1fd6dcd2fbc@terzarima.net> References: <13426df11003161638red0bb67i5332b72b37af702a@mail.gmail.com> <37f13df6290acb20a330e1fd6dcd2fbc@terzarima.net> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:02:19 +0000 Message-ID: From: Stuart Morrow To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [9fans] more little hardware Topicbox-Message-UUID: ebc3f8b0-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On 3/17/10, Charles Forsyth wrote: > as to hardware/software: i'm often struck at how badly hardware > designers still misunderstand how the software will want to see things, > and not just on things like the openmoko. I'm often struck at how badly software designers still misunderstand how the user will want to see things. (note: not aimed at Plan 9, which may well be my least hated GUI and my least hated command line) Anyway, re: your hardware comment: even in virtualisation, where the hardware is actually software, they still do it wrong. Three or four years ago there was a thread on kvm-devel where Ron and Eric were advocating that a PV device should be this 9P-like thing, it never turned out that way though. -stu