From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] how to lock cpu console
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:14:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c97bab42e8ecd634890713f8e8e88dd3@ladd.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimwDG2-x2Rn-60ghtHXsFY18wD+O2hfVXkYWtMG@mail.gmail.com>
> rio is such a minor thing to run on today's massive machines, I'm not
> sure I really see the problem in starting it on your cpu server
> anyway. I frequently set them up to launch into rio because:
> 1. It's easier to fix things when I can cat /dev/kprint in a window
> rather than have it constantly interrupting me
> 2. I like to be able to interrupt programs
> 3. It's nice to run more than one thing at once, have a graphical editor, etc.
> 4. Full-screen stats is pretty
>
> Of course, none of these reasons matter to you, since you don't run
> rio on your servers AND you don't think there's any reason to lock
> them (I agree!), I'm just pointing out that graphical lockers and rio
> in general are far from useless on a cpu server.
i'll buy that. but i think you're missing the basic reason
that the plan 9 cpu console is so minimal. there's no
reason to use one, unless you are doing the most basic of
system maintence. and using one is not without risk.
for example
- you've got admin privs. it's easy to forget any abuse this.
- an errant ^T^Tr ^P or vulcan nerve pinch reboots the
server and not your terminal.
here are some additional reasons that rio makes life
more difficult
- the serial console is now useless; no fixing or rebooting
the machine from home
- you need a kvm port or a real keyboard/video/mouse
to fiddle with the machine even locally.
for me, the loss of the serial console alone makes
running rio on a cpu server a non starter.
the serial console has saved me a good 3-4 trips into
the office this year.
- erik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-01 18:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-31 14:20 baux80
2010-08-31 14:31 ` Robert Raschke
2010-08-31 14:55 ` John Floren
2010-08-31 15:04 ` erik quanstrom
2010-08-31 15:25 ` David Leimbach
2010-08-31 15:25 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-08-31 18:18 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-08-31 19:54 ` andrey mirtchovski
2010-08-31 20:45 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-09-01 4:21 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-09-01 4:44 ` John Floren
2010-09-01 15:11 ` erik quanstrom
2010-09-01 16:57 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-09-01 17:22 ` erik quanstrom
2010-09-01 17:44 ` John Floren
2010-09-01 18:14 ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2010-09-01 18:31 ` John Floren
2010-09-01 18:51 ` erik quanstrom
2010-09-01 19:41 ` John Floren
2010-09-01 18:24 ` frank
2010-09-01 17:56 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-09-01 10:09 ` baux80 at gmail.com
2010-09-01 10:09 ` baux80
2010-09-01 9:56 ` baux80
2010-09-01 9:56 ` baux80 at gmail.com
[not found] ` <E1Oqk2g-0003Ze-1W@gouda.swtch.com>
2010-09-01 19:14 ` Corey
2010-09-01 19:52 ` erik quanstrom
2010-09-01 20:23 ` Corey
2010-09-01 9:48 ` baux80 at gmail.com
2010-09-01 9:48 ` baux80
2010-08-31 14:20 baux80 at gmail.com
[not found] <E1OqRh3-0005IS-Hi@gouda.swtch.com>
2010-08-31 14:29 ` erik quanstrom
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