From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: erik quanstrom Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:05:29 -0800 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20141202040306.Horde.F9NrkN7urXV8lomBO7R6OA1@ssl.eumx.net> References: <1417410858.1852249.197150289.78A68333@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1417423412.1914203.197194673.02F8E8C7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20141202005623.Horde.7OYyDZ5A8-3_91Rj2J4RKw1@ssl.eumx.net> <20141202040306.Horde.F9NrkN7urXV8lomBO7R6OA1@ssl.eumx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Porting plan9 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3197cb48-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Mon Dec 1 20:00:59 PST 2014, khm@sciops.net wrote: > Quoting Steven Stallion : > > > Clearly you've never worked on hardware. > > No, thank Christ, my conscience is clean. Instead I work on > software, and uboot is a fine example of "well it builds on my > laptop" development paradigms. Plenty glad I don't have to > screw with such nonsense any more, and even more glad the company > I work for has got out of the habit of compensating for bad hw > designs by spackling things over with "it builds, ship it" code. while i don't agree that u-boot is nice, i do agree with steve's point, which i understood to be that hardware is messy, and it's hard to write software that isn't a tad messy to deal with this. steve has a lot of experience with hardware, and knows what he's talking about. - erik