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[ron minnich]

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It's been a while ... my iwp9 paper is all troff, I'd like to use troff for
slides, looking for some hints.

thanks

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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

ron minnich wrote in
 <CAP6exYK1vXRK=1jBe3+MjAcfr2HnMotjo+HeAPP6yqKBT4rfBA@mail.gmail.com>:
 |It's been a while ... my iwp9 paper is all troff, I'd like to use troff for
 |slides, looking for some hints.

I have a gpresent git repo for later looking at (but has not
happend in eight years now):

  DESCRIPTION
      gpresent is a package for making presentations with groff and
      acroread.  It consist of a set of macros to be used with groff
      and a post-processor for manipulating the PostScript output of
      groff.  Without the use of the PAUSE macro, it can also be used
      for making slides.

NEEDED
    o  groff (version 1.18.1 dated Oct 3, 2002 or higher/later) with
       the mm macros (included with groff)
            groff.ffii.org
    o  perl (version 5.x)
            www.perl.com
    o  ps2pdf included with Ghostscript (version 5.10 or higher)
            www.ghostscript.com
    o  acroread (version 4.0)
            www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/adobepdf.html

README says:

    staff.science.uva.nl/b.diertens/useful/gpresent/

I can give you the tarball, too.  (URL dead.)

--steffen
|
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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[Anthony Sorace]

I haven't seen them used since I worked at the Labs, but Plan 9 ships with tmac.v. We don't have a man page for it, but on a cursory inspection it seems to be roughly what's descried here:

        https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.2?topic=t-troff-command#troff__mvmacro



> On Mar 18, 2025, at 07:58, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It's been a while ... my iwp9 paper is all troff, I'd like to use troff for slides, looking for some hints.
> 
> thanks
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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[sirjofri via 9fans]

Hi,

I built a small macro package some time ago for slides. It was mostly about setting the layout to some 4:3 format and adding a few macros for headings and stuff. Other than that, you can do a lot already with pure troff as well as ms.

I wanted to look if I ever uploaded it to shithub, but I can't reach it right now. I can also look on my laptop if I can find it. I remember I found .v back then, but there was something I didn't like - maybe it was just the lack of documentation.

sirjofri

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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[Steve Simon]

i used foils, a venerable package for plan9 presentations:
http://www.quintile.net/pkg/foils.tbz

i rather liked the look but perhaps it is not to your taste: http://www.quintile.net/papers/9win-foils.pdf

-Steve


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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[Edouard Klein]

While we are on the topic of slide software, please allow me a slight
off-topic, as this probably won't work on Plan 9 (although a Common Lisp
implementation targeting Plan 9 would be a fun collision of two nice
communities).

Here is what I use:

https://gitlab.com/edouardklein/packslide/-/blob/master/packslide.lisp

It takes a slide description in a very simple S-expression-based domain
specific language, and then uses, in a loop:
- a satisfaction algorithm to pack the content into the slide
  - obeying certain rules such as "the title is above everything else"
- an optimization algorithm to minimize the amount of unused space by
  changing the size of the items.

The result is then exported to LaTeX+tikz and yields a PDF.

If there is any interest in it I'd be happy to answer any questions
about it, off list not to distract too much. I just thought the list
members are the kind of people who'd enjoy such a thing.

Cheers,

Edouard

Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> writes:

> i used foils, a venerable package for plan9 presentations:
> http://www.quintile.net/pkg/foils.tbz
> 
> i rather liked the look but perhaps it is not to your taste: http://www.quintile.net/papers/9win-foils.pdf
> 
> -Steve
> 

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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[tlaronde]

On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 10:56:11AM +0100, Edouard Klein wrote:
> While we are on the topic of slide software, please allow me a slight
> off-topic, as this probably won't work on Plan 9 (although a Common Lisp
> implementation targeting Plan 9 would be a fun collision of two nice
> communities).
> 
> Here is what I use:
> 
> https://gitlab.com/edouardklein/packslide/-/blob/master/packslide.lisp
> 
> It takes a slide description in a very simple S-expression-based domain
> specific language, and then uses, in a loop:
> - a satisfaction algorithm to pack the content into the slide
>   - obeying certain rules such as "the title is above everything else"
> - an optimization algorithm to minimize the amount of unused space by
>   changing the size of the items.
> 
> The result is then exported to LaTeX+tikz and yields a PDF.
> 

And if it has to end with LaTeX and tikz, you can use directly beamer on
kerTeX (add the pkg via the beamer@latex.sh recipe), kerTeX being available
on Plan9, whatever flavor (the only thing that doesn't work on Plan9
is transparency, but because of the kerTeX level, but because gs(1) on
Plan9 is too old).

> Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> writes:
> 
> > i used foils, a venerable package for plan9 presentations:
> > http://www.quintile.net/pkg/foils.tbz
> > 
> > i rather liked the look but perhaps it is not to your taste: http://www.quintile.net/papers/9win-foils.pdf
> > 
> > -Steve
> > 

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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[chris]

> It's been a while ... my iwp9 paper is all troff, I'd like to use troff for
> slides, looking for some hints.

I can only recommend a troff macro package which I somehow got by seninha
in the past.

Here is an example project including all relvant files:

http://chrisfroeschl.de:25519/n/library/seninha/slides/

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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[ori]

Quoth ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>:
> It's been a while ... my iwp9 paper is all troff, I'd like to use troff for
> slides, looking for some hints.
> 
> thanks

Here's some example slides in troff:

        http://repo.cat-v.org/troff-slider/

I'm going to also point at:

        https://shithub.us/phil9/spit/HEAD/info.html

which may not be troff, but it is convenient.

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Re: [9fans] slides ...

[Jacob Moody]

On 3/19/25 09:46, ori@eigenstate.org wrote:
> Quoth ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>:
>> It's been a while ... my iwp9 paper is all troff, I'd like to use troff for
>> slides, looking for some hints.
>>
>> thanks
> 
> Here's some example slides in troff:
> 
>         http://repo.cat-v.org/troff-slider/
> 
> I'm going to also point at:
> 
>         https://shithub.us/phil9/spit/HEAD/info.html
> 
> which may not be troff, but it is convenient.
> 

Ori beat me to it, mentioning phil9's spit.
Just as some extra endorsements, I've been using it lately
and have really enjoyed it. I was intending to use it
for iwp9 this year.


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