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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple experiment
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 00:27:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd9d3321ba837b5629608cb2d192cbd4@kw.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CE4DBA89-86DB-4193-BCDB-AB63A9080D4E@9srv.net>

> My impression is that it was pulled from mainline mostly because it
> was seen as being too much work to maintain for a small group. It's
> also not really sensible to talk about "as good as" without defining
> your context. Over fast, local networks, IL is faster than TCP. It's
> not as generic, but that's not the same as "worse".

history -fD /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/ip/il.c reveals just 4 interesting
diffs since 2002.

> > why is using nat to make many hosts look like one a bad thing?
>
> I suspect the reaction is based on being forced to use it when you'd
> rather not, like many residential ISPs require. It's particularly
> upsetting when the CPE doesn't even have a globally routable address.

that's like saying ferraris are bad because they can be driven into trees.
sometimes you really want many hosts to look like one.  for example,
you may want a farm of http servers may hide behind a single ip address.
this is a good thing for scalability.

> aside: i made the il connection. i think you've got either good luck
> or a good config on your end. it didn't want to ask dns for some reason.

cs?  il was removed from the protocols cs knows about.  try
cs from /n/sourcesdump/2006/0101/plan9/386/bin/cs.

if that fixes it, i'll fix 9atom.

- erik



  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-30  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-27 17:38 ron minnich
2010-04-27 17:49 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-27 18:05   ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-04-27 22:20   ` ron minnich
2010-04-27 22:22     ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-27 17:54 ` jake
2010-04-27 17:57   ` John Floren
2010-04-27 17:59     ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-27 18:35       ` John Floren
2010-04-27 18:56         ` Jorden M
2010-04-27 19:03         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-27 22:23           ` ron minnich
2010-04-28 11:51             ` Steve Simon
2010-04-28 13:18               ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-04-28 13:26                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 13:50                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-04-28 14:03                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 15:15                       ` Charles Forsyth
2010-04-28 13:20               ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 17:52               ` Tim Newsham
2010-04-28 17:57                 ` Tim Newsham
2010-04-28 18:00                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 18:42                   ` ron minnich
2010-04-28 19:06                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-28 19:40                       ` Russ Cox
2010-04-28 20:36                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-04-28 20:51                       ` ron minnich
2010-04-29 13:19                         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-04-28 21:05                       ` EBo
2010-04-28 21:14                         ` ron minnich
2010-04-28 22:06                           ` EBo
2010-04-28 21:15                         ` Gorka Guardiola
2010-04-28 23:18                           ` [9fans] references/citations [was: A simple experiment] EBo
2010-04-28 21:18                       ` [9fans] A simple experiment Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-28 23:04                         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-04-29 12:40                     ` roger peppe
2010-04-29 12:54                       ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 14:35                         ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 15:06                           ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 15:24                             ` ron minnich
2010-04-29 15:34                             ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 16:06                               ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 16:09                                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 17:08                               ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-29 17:20                                 ` ron minnich
2010-04-29 17:32                                   ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-30  2:30                                   ` Anthony Sorace
2010-04-30  4:27                                     ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2010-04-30 10:51                                     ` hiro
2010-04-30 14:46                                       ` Anthony Sorace
2010-04-29 17:23                                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-30  3:47                                   ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-30  5:01                                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-30 15:59                                       ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-30 16:13                                         ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-02 21:26                                           ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-29 18:52                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2010-04-29 19:03                                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 19:54                                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 19:58                                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 20:25                                       ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-03 11:34                                   ` Akshat Kumar
2010-04-29 19:47                                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 17:48                         ` Tim Newsham
2010-04-29 17:59                           ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 18:41                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 18:42                               ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 19:48                                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 19:44                         ` C H Forsyth
2010-04-29 19:58                           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-04-29 20:41                           ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 14:22                       ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 14:36                         ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 14:43                           ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 15:03                             ` David Leimbach
2010-04-29 15:16                               ` ron minnich
2010-04-29 15:25                                 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2010-04-29 18:24                                   ` EBo
2010-04-29 15:06                             ` Gabriel Díaz
2010-04-29 20:32                               ` Christopher Nielsen
2010-04-29 20:40                                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-29 22:39                                   ` Christopher Nielsen
2010-04-29 20:45                                 ` hiro
2010-04-29 23:42                                 ` Derek Fawcus
2010-04-29 23:57                                   ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-30  9:44                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2010-04-29 15:18                       ` ron minnich
2010-04-27 22:21       ` ron minnich
2010-04-27 21:36 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-04-27 21:54   ` EBo

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